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Correctly guess this gun part and win a nice mystery Karma *** WINNER = soggy_spinout ***

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March 22, 2019, 06:05 PM
12131
Correctly guess this gun part and win a nice mystery Karma *** WINNER = soggy_spinout ***
This darn thing fell out while I was shooting today. The gun, however, continued to shoot until completion of range session. I only have SIG, Glock, and Ruger pistols.

Size: Its greatest dimension is 1 cm.

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March 22, 2019, 06:13 PM
Chance228
Part of front sight from Mark series semi-auto?
March 22, 2019, 06:15 PM
Palm
Part of decocker from a sig?
March 22, 2019, 06:17 PM
Skins2881
Part of hammer strut?



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March 22, 2019, 06:20 PM
cslinger
One of the ears on the front of a Ruger .22 mk pistol recoil assembly. Where it nestles into the bolt?

Not the fork end but the front of this.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Volqu...3:g:tqMAAOSw0odbwQSK

I don’t mean to get all technical. Wink


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March 22, 2019, 06:35 PM
kkina
The broken off tip of a Glock trigger bar?



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March 22, 2019, 06:35 PM
patw
Mainspring housing latch for a MK series Ruger pistol.
March 22, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jimg1960
Top part of a straight trigger of a 365
March 22, 2019, 07:26 PM
radioman
The thing that goes up.


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March 22, 2019, 07:36 PM
kimber1911
Skins2881 is correct.
Ruger hammer strut MarkII pistol



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March 22, 2019, 08:16 PM
nshumway
ruger mark 2 mainspring housing latch
March 22, 2019, 08:31 PM
Ke Bo Li
used to be part of the case extractor


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I think the "check engine" light is burned out
March 22, 2019, 08:48 PM
soggy_spinout
A piece of the locking insert out of a SIG.
March 22, 2019, 09:07 PM
cslinger
Just for the record no matter what it is. “The thing that goes up” gets an honerable mention. Smile


"Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man."
March 22, 2019, 09:20 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by soggy_spinout:
A piece of the locking insert out of a SIG.

DING! WINNER!
Congrats, soggy. That's amazing. I don't know if you're into long guns much, and if so, would you care for a LNIB Aimpoint PRO. All yours. Let me know.

So, this is what happened today. I was continuing my endurance testing of the Ni P228. Today was day 4 of 5 of 1000 rds each day. The gun has not been cleaned for the 4 days. Suddenly, at rd # 23,650, the trigger was stuck and failed to reset. I thought it was due to so much crud inside. I jiggled it a little and it reset. Then, I looked down on the platform, there was this little piece just laying there. Had no idea what it was. I took off the slide and did some inspection. Nothing out of the ordinary jumped out. So, I put the piece away to study it at home, put the slide back and continued shooting until ammo ran out (#24,000). There was no further malfunctions. And, when I got home and took everything out, there it was, the locking insert was fractured. Eek Of all the things that can break, the locking insert is the last thing I expected to go first. Luckily, I have 2 spare locking inserts. So, the new one is now in, and the gun is ready for more action.







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March 22, 2019, 09:34 PM
radioman
Awesome. Congrats Soggy and thanks 12131 for all the fun.

Bummer about the broken part on the 228.


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March 23, 2019, 10:21 AM
Dtech
I'm thinking that maybe the locking insert broke "prematurely" probably because of the extended recoil spring replacement intervals? Almost 24k rounds is still pretty good but replacing the recoil spring more frequently would have likely let it go considerably longer I would imagine.

Congrats soggy!


-Dtech
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March 23, 2019, 12:52 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by Dtech:
I'm thinking that maybe the locking insert broke "prematurely" probably because of the extended recoil spring replacement intervals? Almost 24k rounds is still pretty good but replacing the recoil spring more frequently would have likely let it go considerably longer I would imagine.

Congrats soggy!

Glad you brought up the recoil spring, because I discovered that the old P228 spring is built differently than the newer "white" P229 replacement spring. The old spring is stronger and longer. As stated in the testing thread, the original spring was replaced at 12k. The gun was run until 20k. Then, it was sent to SIG for the SSP. I got it back on 3/18. First thing I noticed was how softer/weaker and shorter the new white spring is compared to the P228 spring that already had 8k rounds though it. That was quite a surprise. And now, after 4k rounds with the white spring, it is even weaker. So, if there's blame to be assigned, I'd say the white spring is culprit, imo. I wonder why they change quality of the spring. What do you all think?




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March 23, 2019, 05:52 PM
Eponym
That's not a gun part, it's a piece of a gun part. Smile
I never would have guessed it.
March 23, 2019, 08:55 PM
Dtech
Yes, unfortunately, the more the gun manufacturers try to consolidate things and cut corners, the worse they make it for the consumer, and ultimately themselves whether they think that the consumers "will never notice the difference", making a few extra cents or bucks, etc.. I'll keep my other thoughts on that for another thread I'm thinking about posting about other observations of quality issues and manufacturing changes observed in recent years and my personal experiences in the last few months, so back on topic.

I have both a P229 and a P228 parts kit. I included a picture of them below. The P229 kit clearly has the white spring and the P228 has the original P228 spring that belongs in the P228 just as 12131 has posted in his spring picture, I even counted the coils. 11 for the P229 and 13 for the P228 spring. Not only does the P228 spring have more coils that are closer together, it is a little longer than the P229 spring too. I'm glad I grabbed to P228 parts kit when I did for my KG two tone P228 but unfortunately it is the only one I have for it.

The concerns for anyone with a P228 though are that the P229 spring is indeed going to allow the P228 to beat itself up more quickly because of the spring difference since the P229 spring is also designed to manipulate a heavier milled slide that absorbs more of the recoil and requires less dampening than a lighter folded steel slide like in the P228. It would seem that even if the springs have identical uncompressed tension ratings, the fact the original P228 spring has two more coils and is longer should slow the slide down more smoothly and also return the slide back to battery more smoothly as well. At least that is what it seems like from 12131's testing.

I guess this is a good lesson for all of us that if we plan to keep a gun for a long period of time, we should invest in enough original spare parts for as long as we intend to keep it because you never know when the manufacturer may make a change or stop supporting a gun altogether.






-Dtech
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"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling