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So ummmm where is the Smith and Wesson “M” Frame?
March 04, 2021, 11:50 AM
cslingerSo ummmm where is the Smith and Wesson “M” Frame?
Random thought. I,J,K,L....N......X frames. Ok I sort of get the jump to X frame as those are sort of the monster guns so to speak and the big jump signifies this, but why the jump from L to N frame?
Inquiring minds want to know.

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Chris
March 04, 2021, 11:51 AM
cslinger....I won’t speak of those Z frame abominations...I say good day to you sir.

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Chris
March 04, 2021, 02:06 PM
MalyshI think that S&W M frames are obsolete .32 cal small frame revolvers marketed as "Ladysmith" (though the Ladysmith name has been used for numerous products other than the 32 M frame revolver). These revolvers were dropped by S&W sometime before WWII. It had a standard round butt before most S&W models were offered with it.
March 04, 2021, 02:49 PM
cslingerSo similar to the I frame. Small frame, small caliber obsolete designation? I’d just never heard of it.
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Chris
March 04, 2021, 03:06 PM
Sgt 127There was also a “C” frame. Unbelievably rare. 6 shot .38 to compete with Colts Detective Special.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik..._%26_Wesson_Model_73https://gunvalues.gundigest.co...sson/12480/model-73/March 04, 2021, 04:46 PM
Oat_Action_ManWell I learned something today. Never even heard of an I-frame before!
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March 04, 2021, 04:58 PM
jhe888My grandfather had an I frame Smith. He gave it to a cousin who was a cop. Decades later, my dad asked his cousin if he'd sell it "back" to him, but he refused.
Cute little revolver. I think it was a .32, but I am not certain.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. March 04, 2021, 05:02 PM
Jim WatsonM frame was the Ladysmith, a tiny little .22 Long (Not Long Rifle.) revolver.
Allegedly discontinued when Mr Wesson found out it sold well to Ladies of Commercial Virtue.
More likely because it is fragile. A lot of them out there with cracked forcing cones from smokeless LRs.
March 04, 2021, 06:36 PM
cslingerI learned a couple things today. Thanks all.
M frame and C frame. Interesting stuff.
Thanks all
Chris
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Chris
March 04, 2021, 08:50 PM
blindrefI have one I-frame. It's a .22/.32 Hand Ejector, also known as a .22/.32 Heavy Frame Target. They were also called a .22/.32 Bekeart, after Philip Bekeart.
Bekeart was a big S&W dealer in the late 1800's and early 1900's, and he came up with the idea to build a .22lr target revolver on the .32 caliber frame. The gun was designed with longer target extension grips for a larger and more comfortable feel in the hand. These guns also had an adjustable rear target sight, and a target front sight.
In 1911, he contracted with S&W to build just over 1,000 of these guns. They became very popular and S&W introduced them in 1915 as a regular cataloged model.
This one shipped on January 26, 1929 to the Chapin - Owen Company in Rochester, NY.
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March 04, 2021, 10:19 PM
casThere was no jump from L to N frame. The N frame came out LONG before the L frame.
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March 05, 2021, 12:07 AM
Il CattivoWell, there's a conceptual gap, anyway. I'm just trying to figure out what the danged thing would be chambered for. 10mm, maybe? Some sort of elongated .40S&W, either with or without a rim?
March 05, 2021, 07:59 AM
cslingerquote:
Originally posted by cas:
There was no jump from L to N frame. The N frame came out LONG before the L frame.
Yep. I was just curious why the “bank of letters” had been used seemingly was missing M.
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Chris
March 05, 2021, 06:31 PM
casThey didn't miss M, it was one of the first. Why they jumped around, who knows.
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March 06, 2021, 10:10 PM
hberttmankblindref, nice revolver! I don't think I could lay it down on a rock. Thanks for posting.
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P250UA5Was going to post that my S&W is an M36, but its a J frame, not an M...
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Trooper JoeHere is my 1950 "I" frame .32 S&W Long. This gun was unfired when I found it a couple of years ago (not true now).
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March 07, 2021, 09:22 AM
cslingerDon’t think I mentioned it but both the Smiths in this thread are GORGEOUS.
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Chris