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P320 sales...or lack thereof.

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February 24, 2019, 10:11 AM
Voshterkoff
P320 sales...or lack thereof.
There are already LEO trade in? Yikes.
February 24, 2019, 10:13 AM
jljones
Went into my LGS yesterday, and they can't keep the P320 on the shelves. They had a lone X5, and every other P320 sells soon after it arrives.

They still do sell more Glocks than P320s, though.




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February 24, 2019, 05:23 PM
Sparkyk
I think it has a lot to do with the gun store. One I go to feels Glock is the greatest and everything else is crap. I have been present on a number of occasions when a customer asks about a 320 and they go on and on about what a piece of crap it is. They hardy sell any 320s or anything else other than Glocks for that matter.

But another store sells more 320s. But probably not as many 320s as Glocks though. They present the options that meet the customer's needs and let the customer decide what they want.
February 24, 2019, 06:16 PM
cslinger
If I am in business to SELL guns.....why in God’s name would I go on and on about how crappy one of my wares is???

I mean barring the fact that morally I wouldn’t sell something I felt was truly dangerous or truly broken in some way.

Point is if I am selling Glocks and 320s and I have both in the case and you want one or the other....it’s yours. I could see point out plastic sights vs metal or cheap mags vs not but nothing more than empirical data.


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February 24, 2019, 06:22 PM
MNSIG
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
If I am in business to SELL guns.....why in God’s name would I go on and on about how crappy one of my wares is???


There seem to be a fair number of gun store commandos whose primary purpose in life is to "educate" the rest of the shooting world.
February 24, 2019, 07:42 PM
BBMW
What do you want to bet that Glock is giving incentives that SIG isn't?

quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
If I am in business to SELL guns.....why in God’s name would I go on and on about how crappy one of my wares is???

I mean barring the fact that morally I wouldn’t sell something I felt was truly dangerous or truly broken in some way.

Point is if I am selling Glocks and 320s and I have both in the case and you want one or the other....it’s yours. I could see point out plastic sights vs metal or cheap mags vs not but nothing more than empirical data.

February 24, 2019, 08:23 PM
sigarms229
quote:
There are already LEO trade in? Yikes.



The LEO trade in's are guns that were traded out due to the voluntary recall.

For most large departments, instead of sending your guns in, Sig swapped them out with brand new upgraded guns. The old guns then went thru the voluntary upgrade and Sig made them CPO's and sold them back to dealers.



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February 25, 2019, 07:30 AM
evolution
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
What do you want to bet that Glock is giving incentives that SIG isn't.


I’m not so sure. My local guys tell me Glock is very difficult to work with and also inflexible.


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February 25, 2019, 08:33 AM
soggy_spinout
quote:
I’m not so sure. My local guys tell me Glock is very difficult to work with and also inflexible.

Our regional rep shows up about one time a year, looks over our prices to see if we're in compliance with their MAP, asks a few questions about business, drops off some swag and promotional material for the counter and that's about the end of it from Glock proper. Since we're not a part of the Blue Label program I think that eases things quite a bit, plus since Glocks are typically ordered through distribution there's usually little contact with them directly unless we're ordering enough to warrant a direct drop ship from Smyrna, which is rare. Glock also runs incentive programs like most manufacturers (buy a bunch, get a reduced rate or maybe a freebie...that sort of thing), but again the interface is the distributor. With smaller volume dealers Glocks rarely deals directly.

SIG uses outsourced regional agents like most of the industry does these days. Our current 'rep' draws his paycheck from an outside firm, one that's not located in the PNW. Sometimes they can be annoyingly difficult to get a hold of, though the company that now does the local representation for SIG is far better than the last one was, who was very much locally owned. I found out that the rep who for them wasn't even a 'gun guy', and was more interested handling in his fishing gear accounts than anything having to do with guns and hunting. And he was a total POS on top of that.

EDIT: oh BTW, it appears that I should complain more in posts; some sort of voodoo happened that hasn't happened in well over a year. This past weekend we wound up selling a bunch of 320s that had just been lying around doing nothing, without any aid of a promo to boot. The RX models still aren't moving but the 320s with the X-modules did well these past couple of days, one X-5 and several X-Carrys. Even sold a couple of 320Cs. Maybe being a whiny bitch should be a thing...
February 25, 2019, 08:49 AM
Lord Vaalic
quote:
Originally posted by soggy_spinout:
quote:
I’m not so sure. My local guys tell me Glock is very difficult to work with and also inflexible.

Our regional rep shows up about one time a year, looks over our prices to see if we're in compliance with their MAP, asks a few questions about business, drops off some swag and promotional material for the counter and that's about the end of it from Glock proper. Since we're not a part of the Blue Label program I think that eases things quite a bit, plus since Glocks are typically ordered through distribution there's usually little contact with them directly unless we're ordering enough to warrant a direct drop ship from Smyrna, which is rare. Glock also runs incentive programs like most manufacturers (buy a bunch, get a reduced rate or maybe a freebie...that sort of thing), but again the interface is the distributor. With smaller volume dealers Glocks rarely deals directly.

SIG uses outsourced regional agents like most of the industry does these days. Our current 'rep' draws his paycheck from an outside firm, one that's not located in the PNW. Sometimes they can be annoyingly difficult to get a hold of, though the company that now does the local representation for SIG is far better than the last one was, who was very much locally owned. I found out that the rep who for them wasn't even a 'gun guy', and was more interested handling in his fishing gear accounts than anything having to do with guns and hunting. And he was a total POS on top of that.

EDIT: oh BTW, it appears that I should complain more in posts; some sort of voodoo happened that hasn't happened in well over a year. This past weekend we wound up selling a bunch of 320s that had just been lying around doing nothing, without any aid of a promo to boot. The RX models still aren't moving but the 320s with the X-modules did well these past couple of days, one X-5 and several X-Carrys. Even sold a couple of 320Cs. Maybe being a whiny bitch should be a thing...



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