I think the Colt Double Eagle probably takes home the trophy for having the longest trigger reach of them all. I hated that poorly design gun when I owned it years ago. But, why am I jonesing for one right now?

The CZ DA/SA pistols also have long trigger reach, although not as bad as the Double Eagle. That's one thing I hate about the CZ.

For folks with big hands / long fingers, these guns probably are great for them. But, for the average or small hands, it's an obstacle.

Q,

My biggest lament about pistol specifications is the lack of trigger reach. I wear a size 8 or 8.5 glove (medium range) but my dominant hand's trigger finger is a 1/4" shorter than my other hand's. As a result it is mandatory that I handle a pistol before putting down any monies.

Invariably pistols with double stacked magazines are too thick for me to handle without canting the grip in the web of my hand. Some "tupperware" with interchangeable backstraps help but none rival the classics of the 1911 and BHP for ergonomics in my hand. That said I still fit my 1911s with short triggers.

Always liked the CZ75 design, but as you so aptly point out, trigger reach is abominable for those with smaller hands or short trigger fingers.

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The CZ DA/SA pistols also have long trigger reach,

Even de-cocking models like the P-01, PCR or 75BD? When the hammer is lowered by use of the de-cocker, its travel starts from about one-third cock. This is the only thing making them usable for me as well.

Q,

Have you tried a CZ Shadow 2? The bent knee frame vastly improves trigger reach IMHO. Can't wait for the Dan Wesson DWX Compact to come out, which employs the same frame design but is SAO, of course.

Back on topic - speaking of looong trigger pulls, Kahr pistols take the cake and the trigger reset is a country mile.

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Personally, I’m learning that my priority is towards width.

I have long hands / fingers and thus reach alone isn’t a big issue. Yet, a thin profile is more challenging for me since it reduces the surface contact for much of my trigger finger. On my 220 SAO, it’s too easy to reach the SA trigger and I thus tend to have both my first & second knuckles involved in the trigger manipulation. That introduces too much variation for me. I have to force myself to insert that finger further into the trigger guard in order to anchor the first segment of that finger against the frame and thus limit movement to the second knuckle (proximal joint?).

With a DA/SA 220, the issue is somewhat lessened due to the extra reach in DA mode. But, the thicker grip of a 226 provides a more natural “filling” of my long hand and thus I easily keep the trigger finger anchored.

I think that's the problem I had with Sig Factory grips on their P226's... the E2s and G10 grips gets my trigger finger placed closer to where it aught to be with out my thinking about it.

There always seems to be something to learn in shooting.. once I finally figured out the grip is when I then learned that how I had my finger set on the trigger actually made a difference.

I run the reach reduction kit on all of my CZ’s it makes a world of difference. Reduces the DA reach by 5mm, definitely makes a considerable difference.
I also replace that stupid aggressive curved black trigger they come with, it’s an easy fix but I despise the shape of that trigger.

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Originally posted by 12131:
I think the Colt Double Eagle probably takes home the trophy for having the longest trigger reach of them all. I hated that poorly design gun when I owned it years ago. But, why am I jonesing for one right now?

The Colt Double Eagle holds my personal record of shortness of time of ownership. Ungodly long trigger pull, ungodly gritty trigger pull, ungodly stiff DA pull, and now that I reminisce, a pretty fugly frame design. What possessed me to trade a perfectly good SS Govt model for it I will never know. It was traded for a S&W 4506 less than a week later.

At least with a CZ, Cajun Gun Works has the answer to that with the reach reduction kit. There's no fixing the Double Eagle... LOL

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Originally posted by 12131:
The CZ DA/SA pistols also have long trigger reach, That's one thing I hate about the CZ.

But, for the average or small hands, it's an obstacle.

Interesting,

I have always thought that my hands were smallish for a dude, even calling them "carnie hands" at times.

Just cleaned two CZ pistolas tonight. My stock SP01 tactical and Phantom both with DA/SA actions and decockers.

I will say that the DA pull on both is heavy but decocked I would not consider them overly long for the type of guns they are. My Beretta 92 LTT has a much longer DA first shot pull than they seem to have. Maybe my hands are not that small after all ? ! yip ya !

I think the S+W bodyguard .380 takes the cake for the worst and longest DAO trigger known to man. S+W sigma clearly comes in second.

The CZ is an easy fix, I just had CZ Custom convert a DA/SA CZ75 to SAO and a terrific trigger.

Interesting. I think cz and sigs have the shortest DA reach and throw of the da/sa guns i have. Especially when the cz starts at the half cock notch. Berettas and HKs have noticeably longer reaches and pulls in my experience.

I am fairly odd as I have never really had trigger reach be a huge obstacle for me and I have fairly small hands all things considered.

I honestly have a harder time shooting Glocks and their triggers/feel then any. Beretta/CZ/HK.

Now I’ve never shot a CZ97 or HK MK23 so those might give me issue, but as a general statement trigger reach doesn’t give me fits generally.

I have generally gravitated back to traditional hammer fired DA/SA over the years and I always tended to prefer those types of pistols so it might just be years of dealing with them from various manufacturers and I therefore just subconsciously deal with the reach/work around it or whatever.

I realize this will reveal that I am an old geeber, but the comparatively huge Colt New Service revolvers have about the most ridiculously long DA trigger reach I’ve run across. And they were designed in the early 1900s when people were generally smaller statured with littler hands.

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Originally posted by goforbroke:
I run the reach reduction kit on all of my CZ’s it makes a world of difference. Reduces the DA reach by 5mm, definitely makes a considerable difference.

While at my age I'm no longer really in the market for another gun, this information was new to me and for that you have my thanks!

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Originally posted by bald1:

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Originally posted by goforbroke:
I run the reach reduction kit on all of my CZ’s it makes a world of difference. Reduces the DA reach by 5mm, definitely makes a considerable difference.

While at my age I'm no longer really in the market for another gun, this information was new to me and for that you have my thanks!

The flat trigger that czcustom uses (shortens reach also) I think CGW uses the flat trigger on some of their guns also.

The CZ P-07 (which I also have) doesn't have any shorter trigger reach, but the grip is thinner than that of the metal-frame models, and can be made shorter from front to back by changing backstraps.

Anyone have an H&K P9S? Long reach, long take up, and loonngg reset!