If anyone has a sight pusher for an SP-2022 that I could borrow for a day or two, I would be more than happy to pay shipping costs!

I have a Wheeler Engineering that will work with the SP series, but it won't budge my rear sight; the slide tries to roll over instead, no matter how much I tighten it down.

If anyone has one I can borrow, please contact me via the e-mail address in my profile.

Thanks in advance!

Bill

I would send mine but it is mounted in place and is pretty heavy-about 6+ lbs. I know you said you have a sight pusher but you might check out the Real Avid Master sight pusher. I got mine used on Ebay and to be honest, it looks like new(ish) and you can find them on the cheap. I got mine for $70 shipped and it does any slide out there. On their site it says they are not compatible with the P320 or P365, only because the older models of each had the rear sight mounted to the optic plate. I have done a couple P365 sights with it and it is by far the easiest tool I have used, holds the slide in very securely and doesn't take as much effort to use compared to other sight pushers I have had.

Thanks, I will check it out.

Wheeler looks like a nice unit (decent Amazon reviews). I haven't tried my SP2022. I would probably have to get a shoe for my MGW. The Sight-Pusher Tool worked for another project and maybe the SigPro, I don't know for sure. I have quite a few old credit cards that I've cut up to used for shims and to protect the slide/sight. Describe this "roll over" issue. I assume you've tried everything? Great pistol, now you have me thinking another project. "Universal" may not be what it once was anymore I guess.

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Describe this "roll over" issue. I assume you've tried everything? Great pistol, now you have me thinking another project. "Universal" may not be what it once was anymore I guess.

Kinda hard to do, but I'll try...

With the slide clamped into place as tightly as possible, when I try to remove the rear sight, I turn the handle as hard as possible but the sight doesn't move, the whole slide starts tilting to one side (rolling over). I have tightened the knobs that hold the slide as tight as I can by hand, but it just isn't enough. I supposed I could use pliers or small vice grips to tighten them further, but I just didn't want to damage the finish on the knobs. In addition, I suppose I could use something on the handle to get more leverage... maybe I'll try that later today, but the next few days are going to be super-busy, so we'll see.

Here is a close-up view of the Wheeler tool, the only difference from this one and mine is that mine is gold anodized instead of black. You can see how small the head of the knobs are that clamp the slide in from the side, and the one for pushing on the top of the slide to hold it down is even smaller, meaning no leverage to tighten it! Also note that the handle for pushing sights on the right does not have a whole lot of leverage available without adding some length to one of the four "handles".

The sight pusher block isn't going to work. The MGW tool has several optional blooks that will allow a better bite on the sight.

The MGW is built much heavier and won't flex and the slide block limit flexing.

I that picture, it should be using to angled "pusher". I assume that's what you are using. Strange, the angled option would provide some down force to keep the slide from rolling? Tightening to slide clamp wouldn't provide anymore resistance to rolling I'm thinking. It looks like the rubber cushions/clamps are compressing then? A drop of PB blaster on a toothpick to work into the sight might reduce the force needed. Yeah, a cheater bar on one of the 4 handle wings might cause more problems but I must say, the Sight-pusher tool with a big Allen key and a bicycle seatpost did it for me.

Sig sights have vertical sides so would require the square pusher... at least the ones on my SP-2022 are vertical.

I have Wheeler, the Sporgain pictured above, and the Sight-Tool.com sight pusher tools. Each has its limitations.

The Wheeler and Sporgain primarily hold the slide by its sides. If you have stubborn, stuck sights, then the slide is likely to "roll" within the pusher, as Bill described. If the slide is more trapezoidal shaped (e.g., Sig & Walther) than parallel walls, then this rolling is more likely to occur, as the tool has less to surface area to grip against.

They both could use longer arms on their main screws that turn the pusher, especially on the Wheeler. I almost always have to use a cheater bar w/ the Wheeler.

On the plus side, the Wheeler & Sporgain allow a lot of adjustment to fit different slides.

Sight-Tool works well for stuck sights. It primarily grips the slide from the top & bottom. The screw for the pusher block has more threads, and the Allen key provides more leverage.

The downside is that the Sight-Tool has much less adjustment and fits few slides. For example, the Sight-Tool won't fit to push common M&P OEM rear sights nor Novak rear sights.

We're it mine I'd break it loose with a hammer and brass punch, then move to the sight tool if you so choose...or just drive it all the way out with the punch.

I've come across quite a few sights that won't budge with a pusher tool. A vice, a brass punch, and a big enough hammer has always got the job done so far. The tool is helpful for getting them centered up when installing the new sights, but for getting them off it sometimes doesn't have the balls to break them loose.

The MGW tool is premium but at a premium price of $279. I bought a cheap one on amazon labelled Bravex for $70, and replaced the sights on my Springfield Armory XDM 40. SA XD series pistols are nototriously difficult to remove the sights from. I first tried with a hammer and brass punch which may have loosened them but did not appear to move the old sights. It was difficult but the tool eventually pushed out the old sights and easily installed the new ones.

I took it to the range and it was spot on without further movement, so I lucked out there.

The Bravex above is identical to the Wheeler. I'm surprised it worked for you, b/c I don't recommend it for hard-to-push sights. For one, the metal piece that makes contact w/ the sights flexes too much. You turn & turn and wonder why the sight isn't moving, b/c that & other parts of the tool are bending before the sight budges.

To tell you the truth I was surprised the Bravex model worked as well, but I was not about to spend what some of the pushers cost, like the MGW model,but $70 was not too bad. More than that, and I would have gone to a Gunsmith. I may never use it again, but it would have cost that much to have a Smith do it. I did put a wrench on the pusher handwheel and luckily, it did not break.