Did Texas DPS go with the Sig 320 in 9mm ??? How do they like it ? I know most are not gun guys .

The Texas DPS selected the P320 in 9mm back in 2015. I think they had an RFQ for an additional 500 of them last year.

Thanks for the come back . I know they were going M/P 9 but sent them back. I think they are a long time Sig dept .

Sure did. Graduating classes since 2015 have been equipped with the P320. TxDPS has been randomly swapping out the P226 in 357Sig with Troopers in the field as well.

The Smith was issued but sent back after a disastrous showing in a recruit school a few years go, the failures to feed and fire were very common. They picked a much better pistol, IMHO. Keep checking CDNN, over the next few years they'll probably have a bunch of P226 .357 Sig pistols showing up used...

I think someone was just a Sig lover up stairs . I have had Smith M/P s never a problem , have a L/E MP 9 sku 151215 night sights 3 mags PVD black finish and its flawless . I think the 320 is a good choice to go with and just picked up a full size 320 in 9 with night sights ,just wondered how their new ones held up .

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Originally posted by triaxle:
I think someone was just a Sig lover up stairs . I have had Smith M/P s never a problem , have a L/E MP 9 sku 151215 night sights 3 mags PVD black finish and its flawless . I think the 320 is a good choice to go with and just picked up a full size 320 in 9 with night sights ,just wondered how their new ones held up .

The problem is that your sample size is one gun. DPS was likely buying a hundred or more at a time and seeing issues. This tends to come up with large agency purchases. I remember Indiana State Police trading brand new Glock pistols in .40 for 9mm due to issues with the guns cycling with tactical lights a few years back (I think they're a Sig 227 agency now). Iowa State Patrol awarded a contract to Smith and Wesson and after having issues with the guns (which were replacing older M&P .40s) they went Glock (although there was a lot more to that with allegations of favoritism in the bid process).

So I like my M&Ps just fine (I have a 9, 45, 357, and 357c) I accept that things sometimes come up when you're doing a large scale deployment.

This was not a political decision. There were over 120 M&P' pistols that had verifiable chamber tolerance issues resulting in multiple Failure to feed, eject and demonstrated poor accuracy. To wit, the P226 had an exemplary track record within TxDPS with a documented training protocol already developed for it. The decision to go with the P320 was not a cake walk as there were multiple and serious contenders for the contract and the M&P9 was part of that review.

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Originally posted by triaxle:
I think someone was just a Sig lover up stairs . I have had Smith M/P s never a problem , have a L/E MP 9 sku 151215 night sights 3 mags PVD black finish and its flawless . I think the 320 is a good choice to go with and just picked up a full size 320 in 9 with night sights ,just wondered how their new ones held up .

A trooper fresh out of the Academy showed up at USPSA a few weeks ago to run his duty rig complete with a Sig P320 in 9mm.

NOOOO, say it isn't so!!! No more 357sig!?!?!?

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Originally posted by dry-fly:
NOOOO, say it isn't so!!! No more 357sig!?!?!?

So it seems.

There was a rumor out there that they were soliciting/testing a +P+ 147gr 9mm load that had superior intermediate barrier performance vs. factory 125gr .357 SIG, but I've not heard anything since.

Got any pix of one of these in service, ie with holster, etc?

Thanks for all the info . How do the older guys with 226s get their 320s Do they go to the range or just get say a email to turn yours in the 320s are in .???????????

How many rounds do these guys fire from their 320 every year ? and do they get all the free ammo they want here in PA State guys get one box a year .

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Originally posted by dry-fly:
NOOOO, say it isn't so!!! No more 357sig!?!?!?

Or, does this mean maybe some 357Sig P226s will hit the used market soon?

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Originally posted by P250UA5:

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Originally posted by dry-fly:
NOOOO, say it isn't so!!! No more 357sig!?!?!?

Or, does this mean maybe some 357Sig P226s will hit the used market soon?

Buy one in .40 and get a .357 Sig barrel, either from Sig or Bar-Sto (not a huge price difference). I did that with my 226ST.

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Or, does this mean maybe some 357Sig P226s will hit the used market soon?

They do pop up in the used gun cases in Austin, but I'm not sure that they're retired DPS pistols.

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Originally posted by triaxle:
How many rounds do these guys fire from their 320 every year ? and do they get all the free ammo they want here in PA State guys get one box a year .

I don't know of any LE agency whose officers get all the free ammo they want... Maybe (and it's a big maybe) for a few agencies' top tier specialized teams, like the FBI's HRT, but certainly not for everyone.

My agency used to be very generous with 500 rounds of practice ammo every year. But that went away with the slump in the economy, the spike in ammo prices, and the dearth of supply thanks to the various ammo panics. A few years lately we've gotten a couple boxes, but most years we get none. Ammo is still provided if you attend certain firearms training classes, but otherwise, if you want to practice on your own time, you have to buy your own practice ammo. 52 rounds of duty ammo is provided at annual qualifications, when you shoot up the previous years' duty ammo.

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Originally posted by DaBigBR:
Iowa State Patrol awarded a contract to Smith and Wesson and after having issues with the guns (which were replacing older M&P .40s) they went Glock (although there was a lot more to that with allegations of favoritism in the bid process).

So I like my M&Ps just fine (I have a 9, 45, 357, and 357c) I accept that things sometimes come up when you're doing a large scale deployment.

I picked up one of the ISP trade-in M&P .40s from Recoil Gunworks, very smooth shooting pistol. The night sights were dim, but it came in its correct box with ISP stickers on it and it had the paperwork in it from when it was issued to the trooper. I'm a sucker for LEO marked pistols.

I like the L/E guns also . I have a ICE 229 Sig in 9mm with night sights and the DAK trigger , also has the fed matrix bar code etched on the slide . I had a US Coast Gaurd 229 DAK in 40 with the bar code was a contract over run a guy here kept after me to sell him that and I did , it came in plain brown box with 1 mag . The ICE gun came in blue box marked ICE and 3 mags