I have a 322 it had some jamming in the first 50 ends.. but it was cold out cleaned it , lubed it and shot it another 100. It's been smooth since then.
I have 2 Ruger SR22 one has well over 6000 rounds and it always works
The second one has a tight chamber and once in a while with target ammo it fte. But my guns get abused..at camp it's nothing to have a kid shoot 500 in a Day.
I will be giving the 322 a workout this summer.

Threads like this is what ultimately made me pass on a M9 .22 and put the Ruger MKiv 22/45 Light on layaway. I feel like a purpose built .22 has a better chance (random bad luck lemons aside) of working reliably out of the box and continuing to do so for a long service life, than a .22 version of a center fire semi automatic.

Except the 322 is a purpose built 22. It’s not a copy of anything. While it may look like a 365 it shares no commonality at all. Not even the same size or shape (no holster sharing).

It is a gun that has huge potential if Sig ever decides to improve on it. It’s ok right now, would never be my first choice of anything other than capacity.

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Originally posted by mike56:
Don't dry fire except with the thingy they supplied.

Sig has claimed its safe to dry fire the 322 from day one.

I went into Academy an couple days ago intending to buy a Glock 44 that I’ve had an itch for even though I haven’t done any research on it but ended up buying a SiG 322 on that I didn’t even know about. I haven’t been to the range yet, so I have just perused the manual.
The fact that the Glock wasn’t able to be suppressed without buying a new barrel made me reconsider it, then looking at the SiG, which comes with a threaded barrel adapter, flat trigger and the 20 round mag, changed my mind on the Glock.

I’ve got a good variety of 22lr ammo, so hopefully I’ll be able to get to the range soon.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
Most rimfires are finicky.

I have a few pistols in 22lr and 22 Magnum, they don't work very well with some ammo.

My .17 pistols on the other hand, seem to only work with CCI. Either in .17HMR or .17mach2 the CCI ammo is usually loaded enough to get it to cycle properly.

Try yours with CCI before blaming the gun, you may be surprised.

I would agree, they can be finicky.

I've had three rimfire pistols, one a Dan Wesson Model 22 revolver, a S&W Model 41 and a basic Ruger Mark IV Target.

All of them were accurate, great shooters and nearly flawless. However, feeding could be a little finicky with the Model 41 on very rare occasions. The only one I still have is the S&W Model 41. I do have three separate uppers for the Model 41.

I've never had a .22 pistol that was a conversion from or modeled after a higher caliber semi-auto.

It seems like those attempts by manufacturers rarely work out and the guns are eventually discontinued.

My Beretta 87 is jam-o-matic! I bought it new and certainly haven’t found an ammo that it likes. It’s bad enough that I rarely ever shoot it, as it frustrates the living hell out of me. If I’m grabbing a 22 pistol I almost always choose a my Ruger 22/45.

If you have a brand new Beretta 87 and it is a jam o matic then something is wrong with it. Can you be more specific? I have put at least 10-20k through mine. Cheap bulk pack is my specialty. In all that time I have had 2 issues. Broke a firing pin even though it still fired. And I thought I broke an extractor once. It’s so small I couldn’t be sure. Turns out it was just really dirty. My bad.

Seriously, if your 87 isn’t working 100% fix it or get it fixed.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
If you have a brand new Beretta 87 and it is a jam o matic then something is wrong with it. Can you be more specific? I have put at least 10-20k through mine. Cheap bulk pack is my specialty. In all that time I have had 2 issues. Broke a firing pin even though it still fired. And I thought I broke an extractor once. It’s so small I couldn’t be sure. Turns out it was just really dirty. My bad.

Seriously, if your 87 isn’t working 100% fix it or get it fixed.

I have had this gun for at least 10 years, it has 1 to 2 failure to feed every 2-3 magazines with at least 12 different ammo selections. Cheap ammo or expensive ammo from every brand exception of Eley. All the magazines are unmolested factory 8rd mags. The gun probably has less than 300 rounds through it. Multiple people have tried the gun with the same results. Probably needs to go back to Beretta, just not high enough on my list of things for me to make an inquiry.

You should send it in. That isn’t normal. At all. Multiple mags? That is a conundrum.

Good news is they haven’t imported those for awhile so demand is pretty high for an already expensive 22 if you part ways with it. I bet a trip to Beretta though will change your mind.

Easily my favorite 22 of all time.

I probably now own a dozen or more .22LR semi-auto pistols, including the Kadet conversion kit. Every single one has had at least one stoppage. Hell, every single one by now has had at least a dozen stoppages. Percentage-wise when it comes to failure rate, some of course do better than others. The Kadet in my 75B is mostly reliable. My M41 is slightly worse, yet it can be REALLY worse if I try the wrong ammo. But my Buck Mark has been better than the Kadet, as long as I don't forget not to use CCI hollow points of any kind; somewhat ironic for a gun named 'Hunter'. Every other semi .22 in my horde has been kind of the same. Most mostly good, a few not so but absolutely none anything close to perfect operation. Sure, I've had the regular spotless range session with zero stoppages, but almost invariably the next time out (or the one after that), some stoppage will occur. Oh, frack. Thankfully none of them have been as horrifically and historically bad as the Mosquito I once owned. But none have been adept enough as to mimic centerfire operational perfection either. I've simply come to the conclusion that it's just the nature of .22 rimfire that's the primary culprit of this sort of spotty reliability performance.

If I want a range day with 100% reliability out of a .22 handgun, I take my Ruger Wrangler. Otherwise, all bets are off.

My experience is that of course 22 is the least reliable ammo by a huge margin. That being said, the overwhelming malfunction I experience is failure to fire. Ie, the primer isn’t all the way around the rim. Spin it any direction and it goes pop on the next try. Which is a long way to say revolvers in my experience aren’t any more reliable than a good 22, which I rank as 87 and Kadet tied for first, them my Rugers and revolvers. (I only say this because my revolvers will get dirty and malfunction before my Beretta or CZ).

Bad priming in 22’s is the first thing I would demand to change once appointed Emperor of all important things.

My P322 has been flawless so far (knock on wood_), but I do make a point to clean it way more fastidiously as my 9mms.

Any more personal experiences with the FN 502? I saw the single post in this thread about an unhappy owner. I have a 322 and have thought occasionally about picking up a 502 as well.

I have several .22 rimfire full sized Ruger stainless steel handguns. A Single Six convertible and a MK II heavy barrel target.
I wanted something in .22 rimfire that was lighter and smaller. And that didn't require a gun bearer.

I went to the LGS, and they put Glock, Walther, Taurus, Ruger, S&W, and SIG polymer models on the counter, all in .22 rimfire.
I spent at least a half hour looking/fondling. I didn't really like any of them.

Some months later I stumbled on this Walther PP and instantly bought it. It is one blued gun in a sea of stainless steel that I own. (Ok, perhaps I have several that are blued)
After a proper cleaning and lubrication, it runs flawlessly with standard velocity and high velocity .22 ammo.

It was made in 1973 and still presents as new.

Like .38supersig told you, try CCI Mini Mags. I consider that ammo the Royal Standard for testing .22 rimfire guns that are experiencing virtually any type of malfunction.
40 grain projectiles, hollow point or round nose doesn't seem to matter.

IMG_20221207_160412376_HDR by cee_Kamp 32ACP, on Flickr

IMG_20221207_160345921_HDR by cee_Kamp 32ACP, on Flickr

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You should send it in. That isn’t normal. At all. Multiple mags? That is a conundrum.

Total of six factory mags. Email to Beretta today and their response is the 87 is now a legacy firearm that they no longer support. They also sent me contact info for Midwest Gun Works as a recommendation to get it fixed.

I've only ever worked with one P322, which a guy brought to a training I was helping with, but I wasn't really impressed. It was better than some .22 semi-autos I've shot, but I'd never trade a Ruger Mk-series or Browning Buckmark for one. It had some reliability issues, the trigger was so-so, and the mags were finicky as heck.

There are some good suggestions in the .22 semi-auto thread right now if you're looking for something to trade it on. If you're wanting to keep it, I'd polish the chamber really well, make sure there are no burrs or fouling keeping the rounds from seating fully into battery, and try putting a drop of oil on the top round in your magazine right before you shoot.

I should have known that because I recently broke a firing pin on an 87. Time to stockpile parts I guess. Sorry to hear about your 87. You got the unicorn. The bad unicorn.

Respring, super uber clean job, take it apart and put it back together. Midwest is a certified Beretta gunsmith option but that sounds pricey. Visit Florida we can swap out parts and figure it out. Lol

Valmetshooter I saw where you sent yours back to SiG, I hope they got you squared away because it really is a fun pistol.

I finally got to the range Friday and other than one bad Federal Champion I didn’t have any FTF. I did have a few subsonic rounds that fired but didn’t strip the next round from the mag. I shot half a dozen boxes rounds and another 65-70 that were in a box and apart from their head stamp I’m not sure what they were.





I was just shooting some metal swingers from 15 yards and the RomeoZero Elite made that pretty the easy but the disappointing part was none of the 22’s could swing the targets to the other side.





While the 322 isn’t my favorite, it’s fun, reliable and fairly accurate even in my shaky hand (which I probably owe to the optic)!

I've been pleasantly surprised with my Walther PPQ 22 (not the P 22).