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I've previously been "most accurate" frequently in IDPA matches but like 30 or 40 seconds behind the top shooters because I've not been confident calling my shots and my draw to first shot and reload times are slowish (plus I don't run very fast). I've been dry firing on a timer for a few minutes a day and have been shooting drills on paper rather than steel to try to speed up and not rely on the clang to confirm hits. IDPA match today shooting SSP with P226. I finally beat the fast guys on a couple of stages and came within half a second on a couple. Crashed and burned on a couple and ended up like 7th overall but I think this is a step in the right direction. Fast guy was still faster and more accurate overall but the speed gap is narrowing at least. --------------------------- My hovercraft is full of eels. | ||
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sounds great. what's your draw to first shot times? I know that's where I have the most to gain versus the fast guys. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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If you look at every event on the stage, you will likely find that this isn’t the case. If you cut your draw from 2 seconds to .8, you pick up 1.2 seconds on a field course. Now go measure how much faster they are transitioning the gun and moving from position to position. It is highly unlikely that draws are your low hanging fruit unless we’re talking about high level steel challenge where the draw makes up half your time on a stage and movement isn’t really a factor. _________________________________________ I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew... | |||
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Agreed, and keep in mind there are only a limited number of draws in a match. (number of stages) There are about twice that many reloads, and there are about 4 times as many movements into position and 7 times as many transitions. | |||
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in practice conditions, not from concealment, I can get down zeros at 5 yards at about 1.2-1.3 seconds. At one second it needs to be three yards. If I go to .9 I start throwing shots down one. So a long way to go yet. I also agree that the most time is made up in getting multiple good hits quickly, transitioning, reloading, and moving. --------------------------- My hovercraft is full of eels. | |||
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Single action fast draw guys are in 0.338 seconds at 21 feet (7 yds) and hitting 18" or less diameter steel targets or 9" balloons. Just giving another perspective. | |||
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^^^ That reminds me of the Bob Munden videos. It is amazing at how fast and accurate some people can be. OP, your times sound pretty good to me. What kind of holster do you use? | |||
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concentrate on accuracy. speed will come but if you build bad habits (going to fast) it's hard to back track. don't ask me how I know this.... wish I'd followed the advice of - never shoot faster than you can shoot down zero. Speak softly and carry a | |||
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i use a horrible old injection molded IDPA legal Uncle Mike's belt loop holster for SIG, and a Safariland kydex/leather belt loop IDPA legal holster for M&P. I should probably get a race holster for Open division but my budget is tight and I mostly buy primers and bullets. --------------------------- My hovercraft is full of eels. | |||
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One thing to look at in IDPA matches is Where you are at in your classification and division and how you compare to others similarly ranked. It's great to chase that Master Class shooter who may be winning overall but it's also reasonable to guage your progress on how you rank against shooters using similar guns and gear I see you are shooting SSP? What is your classification? Dry fire is a great way to improve, a lot of the top shooters do a lot more dry fire than live Take notes on each stage on where you could have done better 30 seconds in a 6 stage match is 5 seconds a stage to make up. Break it down further from there, video is helpful also. Good Luck in your race to the top RC | |||
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Agreed. It is the target to target transitions that will provide the best place to pick up some time. And if you are waiting for clangs or to definitively see holes before shooting again, you are probably losing a lot of time. Having the confidence to know when you hit and can move on is important. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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OK I see a bunch of comments about my original post. I have transitioned to using an RMR equipped gun. Finding the dot from the holster is a serious challenge for me. (full disclosure I already know that I need to practice more, so don't post that). It has doubled my initial shot time and its a serious amount of time in my overall scores (2+ seconds). BUT it has not affected transitions or reloads etc. and it has doubled my accuracy at distance. So I'm 'all-in' as my eyes have aged. Now not all the time does it matter for example in Steel Challenge using just the frame of the RMR I can get good hits on the first plate and pick up the dot after that with no time penalty and better accuracy later on stages that require it. In any case 1K I appreciate your posting your times I'm trying to give myself a decent target to shoot for in practice. I will never be super fast. This I already know. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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It took me about 6 weeks to become materially better with a dot in steel Challenge than without. That is 6 weeks of religious dry fire and regular range visits. If you start dry firing regularly, you might be surprised how fast you can get.... you’ll certainly be finding the dot after a few days. _________________________________________ I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew... | |||
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