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Other than the obvious, what are the differences between the Sig flat ($49) and the Grayguns adjustable straight ($89) triggers?


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Posts: 490 | Location: Shenandoah Valley | Registered: February 15, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The obvious.

There's nothing wrong with the Sig trigger. You'll get exactly what it looks like you'll get.

The subtle difference with the Grayguns is a little less take up, certainly less overtravel, and there's a slight difference in the material that provides a cover for the hole where the trigger extends through the frame (Sig covers it on both sides, Grayguns doesn't.

I have the Sig and Grayguns triggers. Were it me, I'd opt for the Grayguns, which I have. A lot of the Grayguns parts are inocculously well designed; they look about the same, feel similiar, but there is a difference. To me, it's worth the cost.

I'll say this: if Grayguns says a part is ready to go, my faith in their backing their part is without hesitation. I don't have a bad history with Sig parts: I keep a stock of them as spares, and I've put Sig triggers in some of my kids guns. What I carry, and what I shoot in competitions, however, are Grayguns parts, for what it's worth.
 
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Thanks. Is the "reach" different?

I'm assuming they are the same length / distance from the trigger guard?

I don't mind spending the extra, but trying to get a better sense of the two options. I don't shoot this weapon often, but it does live in the 'get home bag,' and either me or my wife could grab it at anytime.
 
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I believe the distance is the same, in that if you can reach the flat trigger comfortably on the Sig trigger, you'll reach it the same on the Grayguns. There's less take-up on the grayguns trigger until meeting resistance, and because it has overtravel adjustment, less overtravel, and thus less reset distance, too. They break at the 90 degree point, with the flat trigger straight up and down.

There was a video online that showed the measured differences. I'll see if I can find it.

edit--this isn't it, but does show a before/after with the grayguns competition trigger. It uses the adjustable trigger, and compares before and after, showing the takeup, and reset.

]https://youtu.be/yk_ScNeGrZw

Also:

https://youtu.be/jH4apNgPXEw

He reviews the apex as well. I have the apex and like it, can't fault it. Mine has a bit more clear break or snap to it. But overall I like the Grayguns trigger.

https://youtu.be/jH4apNgPXEw
 
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I have Grayguns parts in nearly all of my P-series pistols. For that reason alone, it's what I'm leaning toward. Not sure why it's so much better than all the others, but I always like to mention that the Grayguns trigger in my 40/357 P229 surpasses even my P210 (better reset, slightly crisper) and is perhaps the most satisfying material object I've ever encountered--my only complaint is the clanky sound of the hammer drop in that gun.

I didn't know Apex had a trigger for the 320, so now I have something else to consider. I'm familiar with some of their CZ stuff, but I don't know if I've ever used one of their products.

Thanks again. This is quite helpful.
 
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The apex was actually the first of the flat triggers that I tried, and I have one set up on a P320 compact presently. I had a weekly shoot I'd go to, for about a year, that I ran that trigger. It's got a little different profile; mostly straight with a slight angle part way down, and it's concave on the front. The trigger can be purchased alone, or the trigger and an apex draw bar, and a sleeve that serves as an overtravel stop, with a small spring to hold it in place. It's very easy to install.

I tried the apex set up without the draw bar, and with, and with and without the sleeve, and concluded that it works best with everything. I think it runs about one twenty for the kit. I think the pull weight is a little heavier, though I haven't measured it, and it's got an actual break to the trigger pull, rather than more of a pass through for the normal P320. Doesn't detract, but is a little different than with other trigger setups. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a P320 with that trigger, or to carry it like that. Apex has videos about installation and there are numerous youtube videos reviewing the different triggers.

I have both the factory flat trigger and the Grayguns flat triggers on my P365's, as well.
 
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I have the SiG Flat triggers on my P365 and P320 XCompact. I really like the factory trigger, but have not tried the Gray or Apex. I read one review that said the Apex was better, but marginally.


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Sorry to de-rail this thread, but since the Legion trigger is also available, does anyone have experience with the factory Legion trigger in comparison to the ones being discussed in this thread?

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Which legion trigger?

Agency arms, or the previous trigger (I believe it was originally a Grayguns trigger).
 
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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Which legion trigger?

Agency arms, or the previous trigger (I believe it was originally a Grayguns trigger).

The factory Legion trigger. Sorry for not being clear about that
 
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The factory Legion trigger. Sorry for not being clear about that


Like I said...which factory legion P320 trigger? There have been more than one, and they're aftermarket triggers installed at the factory.
 
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The factory Legion trigger. Sorry for not being clear about that


Like I said...which factory legion P320 trigger? There have been more than one, and they're aftermarket triggers installed at the factory.

My apologies again. I know there are many aftermarket triggers available for the P320... but I had no idea there were aftermarket trigger options being installed from the Sig factory on the Legions. I thought they all came with the same skeletonized triggers. So I guess to answer your question, the skeletonized flat trigger is what I'm asking about.
 
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