Yes, it's an odd caliber. Yes, they're "used". But dang it, they're cheap at $256 shipped! Mine came in today and it's fantastic! The sights are bright and the finish is perfect. I don't know if they're all like this, but it's worth a gamble if you don't mind adding abother caliber to your stash. I picked up a couple boxes of GAP at the Walmart. Couldn't be happier with a like-new pistol for $260.

Thanks for the heads up.
A nice feature is, should you ever desire, that it can be converted to 40S&W.

Thanks for the heads up
I have been looking at one of these for years

I wonder what department is dumping them. NY State Police are still using them -- have been since 2007.

I had the full size 45 Gap a while back and it was a tac driver .

Thanks for the heads-up! I ordered one.

Not too excited about adding another cal to the safe, and ammo storage,"but dang it, they're cheap!"

I don't like that you have to pick from their list of FFLs but other than that, it was an easy order. Used Glock 37 delivered for under $300.

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Originally posted by toivo:
I wonder what department is dumping them. NY State Police are still using them -- have been since 2007.

Not sure. Florida Highway Patrol is still using them as well.

There were several departments using them, but nearly all have transitioned away.

Glock was practically giving away the guns to departments there for a while, trying to generate sufficient demand/hype for their proprietary GAP cartridge and cement its place in the ammo market. It wasn't successful.

.45 GAP is a dying caliber. The little bit of money you save on the gun itself is going to be eaten up by the higher price of ammo, which will only be exacerbated once it totally dies off in another several years.

You can get a LE trade-in Glock 22 in .40 for about $40 more, or a LE trade-in Glock 17 in 9mm or Glock 21 in .45 ACP for about $100 more. And those calibers aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

I'd be happier with a couple cases of 9MM instead of a G37.

Can’t you convert these to .45acp with just a barrel?

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Originally posted by limblessbiff:
Can’t you convert these to .45acp with just a barrel?

You can't. The frame is not large enough to hold .45acp cartridges.

Correct.

.45 GAP was designed specifically to use the standard 9/40/357 frame, without requiring the larger 10mm/.45ACP frame.

You could convert a .45 GAP Glock to 9/40/357, but that would require a new slide assembly, trigger housing, and magazine. You'd basically just be using the frame and a couple of the trigger components. Not cost-effective at all.

ATI offers .40 conversion barrels, which only requires the conversion barrel, a .40 extractor, and a .40 magazine. Slightly cheaper, but still not a great deal at $260 for the GAP gun plus $160 for the conversion barrel and extractor, and another $20 for a .40 magazine. And not everyone would trust a caliber-converted gun for self-defense.

(If you want a a .40 Glock, don't bother with the conversion. You can get one for way less than $440... LE trade-in G22s are just under $300.)

I always thought the agencies that adopted it were out of their mind. A 10 rd gun the size of a 15 rd Glock 22. It made no sense. Everyone of those agencies would have been better off just adopting a Glock 22.

The Florida Highway Patrol was using .40 cal Beretta's that were long in the tooth, so they were probably just happy to get free or almost free guns at that point, ANYTHING to get rid of those aging Beretta 96 pistols.

For many agencies, especially larger ones, gun selections are based around dollars and cents.

And when Glock comes around offering free guns, the bean counters' pants get tight.

Wow and folks say .40 is a dying caliber.

Since it’s inception I literally have never seen or fired a round of .45 GAP. I have shot more 41 Magnum by far.

I would actually like to try it some day.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
Wow and folks say .40 is a dying caliber.

Since it’s inception I literally have never seen or fired a round of .45 GAP. I have shot more 41 Magnum by far.

I would actually like to try it some day.

Me either. I've never seen or fired a round of .45 GAP either.

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Originally posted by lopezp: I picked up a couple boxes of GAP at the Walmart.

Walmart carries GAP?
Hollow points?

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Originally posted by bubbatime:

The Florida Highway Patrol was using .40 cal Beretta's that were long in the tooth, so they were probably just happy to get free or almost free guns at that point, ANYTHING to get rid of those aging Beretta 96 pistols.

'Aging' as in worn out from practice and use, or full of lint and surface wear?

Depends on where you live

When I lived in Georgia there was GAP in Walmart’s because GAP was used by several Georgia agencies

Then I moved to Virginia, and .357 sig is in Walmart for the same reason..Lots of agencies use it

I haven’t seen a box of GAP in a Virginia Walmart in years

And I don’t remember ever seeing .357 sig in Georgia

.357 sig was more established than GAP and so will die a slower death

But as technology increases, making 9mm a more effective caliber, and making .45 handguns more user friendly (guns that have high capacity, better recoil comp, and are more easier used across all demographics), niche calibers that solved a problem those traditionally presented, will fade away (.357 sig being hot 9mm, and GAP being user friendly .45)

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Originally posted by Texas@Last:

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Originally posted by lopezp: I picked up a couple boxes of GAP at the Walmart.

Walmart carries GAP?
Hollow points?