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As I noted above, I don't have the exact count, but it was over 5,000. The replacement spec from Sig is 5,000.


Well it is off to gunsprings.com for me


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Me too. But I should wait till I shoot it with the fresh stock spring. It's possible I'll need to go to a lighter spring to compensate for the lighter slide mass.



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If anything, you need a heavier spring to slow the slide velocity. It's not the closing of the slide during the firing cycle which is the problem; it's the slide/barrel impacting the locking block/frame during extraction. My impression is that because of the reduced slide mass, your pistol is getting the crap beat out of it.
 
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Well, in that case I may be ok with the new stock spring, which will be stiffer. But ever more important to replace on schedule.

EDIT: I just tried dry-cycling with the new spring, and it is much stiffer than how the old one had been lately. Maybe this will solve the problem.

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Just shot with the new recoil spring. Gun ran perfectly. At 25 yards had to do a slight adjustment to the new Heinie sights. Grouping was a bit to the right initially, but one good tap to the rear sight brought me back to center.

Then moved on to the 50 yard line, and finally 100 yards. Again, gun performed fine, and with the right sight picture, shots were on the paper.

I'm thinking I should just stick with an OEM spring, but remember to replace at the Sig-recommended interval.


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You can grate some serious parmigiano Reggiano cheese with that slide Brother Wink

Well, I usually use it more for zesting. Wink



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It's a factory slide (w/aftermarket porting obviously), barrel, and recoil spring. It does have an aftermarket guide-rod, but I've used it forever with no problems.


I love posts like this. Gee whiz, Wally. My gun broke even though it only had aftermarket porting and an aftermarket guide rod. I mean, what possibly could the problem be????
 
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I mean, what possibly could the problem be????

Normal wear and tear, as the spring was past the stated replacement interval.

Welcome to the forum, 19ontheslide. I'll think you'll find this place an engaging forum where people can post dissenting opinions without resorting to ad hominem comments.



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I mean, what possibly could the problem be????

Normal wear and tear, as the spring was past the stated replacement interval.

Welcome to the forum, 19ontheslide. I'll think you'll find this place an engaging forum where people can post dissenting opinions without resorting to ad hominem comments.


I don't think you understand what ad hominem means. I made no statement about your personal character, simply commented on the idea that aftermarket modifications to a firearm that lead to eventual failure of the system, followed by confusion about why the system failed, are humorous. And by the way, I have been a member here for over a decade. No need for the "warm" welcome, but thank you all the same.
 
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I understand perfectly. Your comment was personal and mocking, in an indirect way yes, but personal nontheless. Others have expressed the same differing opinion, but in a polite and objective way. As for the welcome and being a member for 10 years, your registration date is 2020, and less than 5 posts?



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I understand perfectly. Your comment was personal and mocking, in an indirect way yes, but personal nontheless. Others have expressed the same differing opinion, but in a polite and objective way. As for the welcome and being a member for 10 years, your registration date is 2020, and less than 5 posts?


I understand your confusion about the second part. My original username and password went unused for so long that I forgot them and had to reregister recently.
 
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Did I read this correctly? 25 yards? 50 yards? Then 100 yards with a P229?
Really? Please do tell us about that. Yards or feet?


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Did I read this correctly? 25 yards? 50 yards? Then 100 yards with a P229?
Really? Please do tell us about that. Yards or feet?


There's quite a few members here who shoot longer ranges with handguns. I developed my own system of holdovers using modified sight pictures to compensate for ballistic drop. At the rifle ranges (50 & 100 yards) I generally shoot off a bag rest and take my time for each shot. I wouldn't say I get groups at those distances, and am happy if I can keep the shots on the backer.


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Did I read this correctly? 25 yards? 50 yards? Then 100 yards with a P229?
Really? Please do tell us about that. Yards or feet?


POA/POI at 50 yards isn’t a big deal.
At 100 yards the front sight completely covers a piece of steel that is about the size of an upper torso. 150 yards gets tougher. You have to hold a bit over the target to account for the drop. It’s been a while, but about 16 inches high for 9mm if I remember correctly.
 
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At 100 yards the front sight completely covers a piece of steel that is about the size of an upper torso.

That is precisely why I dislike so-called "combat-sighting" at any range, and replaced the sights with simple traditional irons (mine are Heinies).

With my gun and set-up, there is significant drop at 50, and even 25 yards as you can see in the chart above. Instead of just aiming higher (i.e. holdover), I prefer to use a slightly modified sight pic. Without this adjustment, I would definitely be off the paper at 50, and would get quickly scolded by an RSO for hitting the bottom of the frame.



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