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Beretta 92FS Centurion fully upgraded

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July 23, 2019, 11:44 AM
Batty67
Beretta 92FS Centurion fully upgraded
I picked this Beretta a few months ago, it was manufactured in 1994. I made a lot of upgrades, which are now complete. Need to shoot it to check the new sights.

- Wilson Combat ultrathin grips
- Beretta extended magazine release
- Installed Langdon Trigger Job in a Bag (which was challenging and replaced most trigger-related parts and all springs); DA/SA trigger is SWEET
- Integral front sight drilled-out and replaced with a fiber optic; rear sight replaced with a blacked out WC low-profile "U" sight
- New recoil spring


July 23, 2019, 11:51 AM
Warhorse
Any pics?


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July 23, 2019, 11:54 AM
Batty67
Added a picture, thought the "free" version of Photobucket is super slow and balky (no doubt intentionally, it was like using an image hosting program from the early 2000s).

I originally wanted the night sights, but I could not justify spending $300 on them. But $75 seemed reasonable from Allegheny Arms near Pittsburgh.
July 23, 2019, 12:05 PM
henryarnaud
Very nice. My 92FS was made around the same year, I believe.

Been thinking about getting that Wilson Combat rear sight, though with a square notch. Also considering the WC mag guide.

Mine has the G conversion and I really like it. Have you considered doing that?

FYI, Langdon has a new trigger bar. It's supposed to shorten the SA reset.

FWIW, I've been using postimage for pic hosting. Might be worth looking into.



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July 23, 2019, 12:06 PM
scsigs
That's a sweet looking 92
July 23, 2019, 12:59 PM
Batty67
quote:
Originally posted by henryarnaud:
...Been thinking about getting that Wilson Combat rear sight, though with a square notch. Also considering the WC mag guide.

Mine has the G conversion and I really like it. Have you considered doing that?

FYI, Langdon has a new trigger bar. It's supposed to shorten the SA reset.



I could have gone either way with the WC rear sight, but went with the U.

I have thought and continue to think about the G conversion, but in the end, I like having a manual safety, even if it is oddly placed and sort of strange in how it functions. This is effectively a range toy so, for now, I'll keep it.

Damn it! New trigger bar? The DA pull is so smooth, by far best DA trigger I've ever shot. The SA trigger breaks clean like a thin glass rod, but it DOES have a lot of take-up. Would the trigger bar eliminate that? Sigh. I pulled it apart once, which was pretty nerve-wracking. No doubt it would be easier the second time.
July 23, 2019, 01:34 PM
henryarnaud
quote:
Originally posted by Batty67:
Damn it! New trigger bar? The DA pull is so smooth, by far best DA trigger I've ever shot. The SA trigger breaks clean like a thin glass rod, but it DOES have a lot of take-up. Would the trigger bar eliminate that? Sigh. I pulled it apart once, which was pretty nerve-wracking. No doubt it would be easier the second time.


I don't know about take-up, but it shortens both reset and overtravel.




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H538XboLh1A



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July 23, 2019, 02:24 PM
Batty67
Thanks henryarnaud. That's not my cup of tea.
July 23, 2019, 03:03 PM
Snake207
VERY nice!


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July 23, 2019, 03:45 PM
CQB60
Nice work. Love those 94” Centurions


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July 23, 2019, 06:40 PM
Batty67
Put 100 rounds through it. Went from a pure cover hold to more like a center mass hold, which is excellent. Very pleased, but I wish I brought more ammunition...
July 23, 2019, 07:21 PM
henryarnaud
quote:
Originally posted by Batty67:
Thanks henryarnaud. That's not my cup of tea.


I hear ya. My 92 is a home defense gun, and I'm not particularly interested in a shortened reset, but I thought it might interest you, or anyone else reading this thread.



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July 23, 2019, 07:22 PM
henryarnaud
quote:
Originally posted by Batty67:
but I wish I brought more ammunition...


Isn't that always the case? Wink



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July 23, 2019, 08:55 PM
xray 99
My favorite Beretta.
July 23, 2019, 11:45 PM
ruger357
I will be doing the same and converting to G. Love the railless centurions.


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July 24, 2019, 07:57 PM
Sig Mann
The rail-less Centurions are definitely special. Very nice pistol!
July 25, 2019, 06:16 PM
ceptor781
Got a couple of LTT optimized trigger bars in today. One dropped in and the other needed the over travel shaved a bit. It does do what the Wilson bar does while dramatically reducing the reset. However it does this by forgoing the firing pin block reset so these went into suppressor hosts.



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July 26, 2019, 02:11 PM
Snake207
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It does do what the Wilson bar does while dramatically reducing the reset.


That was my biggest concern about Ernie's trigger bar as I run my M9A1 with a 12lb main. If his gives the increased hammer arc like Wilson's then 99% sure I'll get one.

Not that the reset of a 92 was ever a concern to me (not even sure I noticed it), but hell, why not get one. Big Grin


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July 28, 2019, 05:37 PM
jhe888
Nice. Are the Wilson grips the same as the Langdon ones? How do you like them?




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July 28, 2019, 06:29 PM
Batty67
The grips are excellent. Change the entire feel and ergonomics of the pistol. I have fairly large hands, but the originals are pretty boxy. I suspect they are made by the same company (VZ?) and just branded differently.