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The 10mm SIG 220ST Project

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April 14, 2008, 10:08 AM
Boostmeister
The 10mm SIG 220ST Project
Bruce, you have already made some recommendations regarding what you would like to see as far as ammo used with the 10mm conversions. Would there be any option to add a compensator to the firearm? I'm not promoting the use of heavy duty loads, but rather thinking that a compensator may very well add to the long term reliability of the gun. Waiting for the call to send in my gun (I'm in the second round) so I have time to ponder such issues.

Gary
April 14, 2008, 02:48 PM
Grayguns
quote:
Originally posted by Ordnance Outsell:
mbinky, while I'm sure Bruce or Scott will speak for themselves; but "Carry" all stainless 220 is not eligible for conversion; due, if I remember correctly, to increased slide velocity of the Carry over full size? Wouldn't surprise me if they figure out a solution for this sometime down the road?


Hiya! The laws of physics being what they are, I don't see the 10mm cartridge as suited to anything less than full-sized pistols. That's what .40 is for, in my view. Thanks for the supporting input!

-Bruce




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April 14, 2008, 02:52 PM
Grayguns
quote:
Originally posted by Boostmeister:
Bruce, you have already made some recommendations regarding what you would like to see as far as ammo used with the 10mm conversions. Would there be any option to add a compensator to the firearm? I'm not promoting the use of heavy duty loads, but rather thinking that a compensator may very well add to the long term reliability of the gun. Waiting for the call to send in my gun (I'm in the second round) so I have time to ponder such issues.

Gary


Gary,

Thanks, a comp is possible of course, with cosmetics being the biggest limitations. I've never been a fan of comps which don't flow neatly with the slide profile, nor which prevent full disassembly. But, it is technically possible and not that difficult, I reckon.

-Bruce




Designer and custom pistolsmith at Grayguns Inc. Privileged to be R&D consultant to the world's greatest maker of fine firearms: SIG SAUER

Visit us at http://opspectraining.com/product-cat/videos/ to order yours, and Thank You for making GGI the leader in custom SIG and HK pistolsmithing and high-grade components.

Bruce Gray, President
Grayguns Inc.
Grayguns.com / 888.585.4729
April 21, 2008, 05:02 PM
Flork
TIME FOR A TEASER.

I just got the first P220 ST 10mm back from the refinisher today. OH MAN IT'S SEXY.

I decided it would be mean to tease you with just words, so I took shots with my crappy camera so that you can see them.






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April 21, 2008, 05:08 PM
Phantom229
EVIL. Is that the new EBP?



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April 21, 2008, 05:15 PM
Flork
quote:
Originally posted by Phantom229:
EVIL. Is that the new EBP?


EBP?????


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Scott @ Apex
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"Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection."
Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS)
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My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/

http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/
April 21, 2008, 06:14 PM
wangle
quote:
Originally posted by Flork:
quote:
Originally posted by Phantom229:
EVIL. Is that the new EBP?


EBP?????

EBP = Evil Black Pistol ?
April 21, 2008, 06:24 PM
Flork
I knew that...... Smile

Yep, that'll be it when it's finished.


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Scott @ Apex
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"Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection."
Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS)
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My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/

http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/
April 21, 2008, 07:10 PM
Gary1911A1
A range report when you get it together would be great. Looking forward to sending you my ST220!!!
April 22, 2008, 08:10 AM
Phantom229
quote:
Originally posted by Flork:
I knew that...... Smile

Yep, that'll be it when it's finished.
Sure ya did. Wink I think you guys should call it the P220ST 10mm with the EBP package. Big Grin



Situation awareness is defined as a continuous extraction of environmental information, integration of this information with previous knowledge to form a coherent mental picture in directing further perception and anticipating future events. Simply put, situational awareness mean knowing what is going on around you.
April 22, 2008, 03:12 PM
220parts
I wonder where that gun is going!!


Veni, Vidi, Risi
April 22, 2008, 03:38 PM
Flork
Depends on who's asking.


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Scott @ Apex
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"Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection."
Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS)
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My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/

http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/
April 23, 2008, 04:50 AM
mbinky
Wow! Is that the new tough as nails black coating Bruce has been talking about?
April 23, 2008, 09:45 AM
Flork
Yep, this is it.


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Scott @ Apex
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"Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection."
Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS)
------------------------------------------------

My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/

http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/
April 23, 2008, 11:57 AM
Flork
Does this make you guys drool???????




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Scott @ Apex
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"Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection."
Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS)
------------------------------------------------

My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/

http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/
April 23, 2008, 12:37 PM
signoir
quote:
Originally posted by Flork:
Does this make you guys drool???????


Oh, yeah! Good thing those slides are stainless.


"When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power...like God must feel... when he's holding a gun!" H. Simpson.
April 23, 2008, 04:20 PM
WaterburyBob
quote:
Originally posted by Flork:
Does this make you guys drool???????
You bet! I see mine in that line-up.



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April 23, 2008, 04:28 PM
Il Cattivo
quote:
Originally posted by Flork:
Does this make you guys drool???????


You sick, twisted, evil.......GET BACK TO WORK!!!!
April 23, 2008, 05:54 PM
wangle
quote:
Originally posted by Flork:
Does this make you guys drool???????


Well not drool - what comes to mind is
"HURRY UP DUDE"
Cool
April 23, 2008, 06:07 PM
jarcher
Scott, are those on their way out to be refinished?


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