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Hello Everyone, Aside from 12131's famous P228 Nickel "torture test", has anyone here ever broken a stamped slide SIG? Just curious. | ||
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While not catastrophic per se, I had a locking insert fail on a KA coded P220 when a decent sized chunk of the feed ramp broke off during firing. | |||
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Yes. Complete frame crack by the chamber. But no biggie, that gun had a lot of miles on it. | |||
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What model? How many rounds give or take? | |||
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Had a case rupture that blew off the extractor on a 226. Thats it for me. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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PD trade in P220 with a leg broken off the locking insert. Ran fine, but it got a new locking insert anyway. | |||
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I don't know if this counts as "catastrophic", but I'll mention this... Not one of my SIGs, but years ago I met one of my brother's room mates who was complaining about a used P226 carbon steel stamped folded slide gun. He showed it to me and it had a cracked frame rail on the right side, right where the aft portion of the forward rail starts, near the locking insert...which is the same place I've seen a few other frame rails crack, in pictures. He had contacted SIG about the issue but was upset they wouldn't cover it with their warranty, but this was before SIG changed to a limited life time warranty. This was a used gun that he bought and shot so the round count was unknown, but based on the wear there is no doubt it had been used... ...but used doesn't necessarily indicate that it had been properly maintained. | |||
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Mud rails come to mind. | |||
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A buddy of mine was shooting some sketchy gun show cast reloads out of his old P226 9mm and one of them ruptured a case. The slide was stuck on the frame and he had to pound it off. He did a little backyard gunsmithing and got it running again, but I do not think he had to replace any parts on it, just some tweaking on the slide. | |||
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Not sure what might be catastrophic but I have broken many roll pins. Even while replacing them on a regular basis. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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I broke the locking insert in an old P220, cracked where the barrel lug engaged the locking insert. it took many many rounds to do it, I was assigned as a firearms instructor at the time and shot the gun a lot. It was maintained, but round count was high (i dont remember exactly, but 50K plus IIRC) During that period I went through a couple of sets of mags due to cracks at the bag of the feed lips ***************************** "I don't own the night, I only operate a small franchise" - Author unknown | |||
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Not my gun, but mid '80s saw a P226 that had cracked horizontally in the frame rails. This was a new gun used in a Dept. revolver to semi-auto transition class. It had only been fired a few hundred standard pressure rounds. SIG replaced the gun. NRA Life | |||
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Me too, but i suspect the high amount of dry firing to be the cause. The rollpins are rated for 5'000 rounds ( with dry firing ) The problems with the dual rollpins when they are brocken is that the breechblock will move inside the slide and add stress to the frame rails, the result is frame rail cracks.I've read somewhere that the P226 is more prone to breack the rollpins.... | |||
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The worst thing I’ve experienced was breaking the trigger bar on my P220 duty gun. I only mention it because it could have been catastrophic if it had occurred in a gunfight rather than while practicing at the range. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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I had a case rupture that bent the extractor on my new to me P228, no other damage, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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It was a P228 that got shot every week for probably 15 years. I never tracked round count, but I'm sure it would be considered very high. I just took a slide off another gun (one of the weird 229 frame with 228 slides they did a bit back) and put it on the frame. Didn't think much of it. Old guns with a lot of rounds break. Then I bought a "classic" slide for the 229. Newt | |||
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I have not personally shot a stamped slide SIG enough rounds to see a failure. But I was told, by a SIG Sauer employee while I was at the factory in New Hampshire, that slide problems/failures was one of the reasons they transitioned over to milled one-piece stainless steel slides. There were other reasons, like handling higher pressure cartridges and ease of CNC manufacturing; but some of the older folded and welded steel slides just worked their way apart after a lot of rounds. Frames cracking, that's another issue. There are a number of reports about frame problems posted on the forum. _________________________ 2nd Amendment Defender The Second Amendment is not about hunting or sport shooting. | |||
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