Ok so that title sounded way better then

"Hey Cslinger shot for shit today!"

Wow some days you get the bear and some days the bear gets you I guess.

I went to the range today to specifically shoot some handguns at 15 yards. 15 yards is, generally, speaking out of my comfort zone so I wanted to put some rounds out at that distance. Well today several factors conspired against me.

1-I think I got in my own head telling myself you suck at 15 yards.

2-I kept futzing with my grip/trigger instead of just shooting the damn gun

3-Well, I suck, but I am honest about it.

This is just a little advice to new shooters. When "your gun" is shooting "left, low, right....whatever".....99% of the time its not the gun.........IT'S THE AMMO!!

Seriously though the only way to see what is "malfunctioning" is to look in a mirror.

Take care, Shoot safe, Its the ammo I swear
Chris

Good advice

Everybody get the "yips" but you don't have to invite them in with tea and cake.

It happens to all of us. Sooner or later we all get a bad batch. One of the things I like about practicing dry fire drills with a red dot, is that it doesn’t lie. If the dot is not where it was supposed to be my grip or presentation has something wrong. If the dot jumps when I break the trigger, I’m usually slapping the crap out of it. The more I practice the more consistent I am dot or no dot.

My problem is on days where I suck, I should have the discipline to pack up and not waste ammo.

In all seriousness, most left errors (for right-handed shooters) can be corrected with more support hand grip.

I have not, in my life, ever seen a person apply too much support hand grip. One of my favorite instructional demos is to have the shooter get a good strong hand only grip and then do the support hand grip for them so they can feel what "right" is. Very seldom are they gripping as hard as I am (and I am not an overly "strong" person). As an added bonus in this demonstration, you can briefly loosen the support hand grip and they will see their sights fall low and left.

What is was for me, after figuring out the grip was where my finger was on the trigger... if not centered just right I would shoot left.

Ummmm ... I thought all handguns shoot left and,

you're supposed to pick an aim point just to the right and down from the 'X'

Am I doing it wrong?

I think when you shoot indoors at distance, it’s more intimidating because so many people are shooting at 15ft not yards.

Outdoors when shooting steel, it comes more naturally and even when shooting paper. But it’s hard to shoot bugholes off hand at 15 yards.

PB

I think the 15 yard line is cursed. I ran through he ILEA Qual course the other day with my P220 Compact. It consists of 50 rounds total in a number of stages all the way out to 25 yards. I held a nice tight group in the center of the chest through the whole thing...except one solitary round that I dumped outside the scoring ring at you guessed it: 15 yards. Stupid 15 yard line.

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My problem is on days where I suck, I should have the discipline to pack up and not waste ammo.

Yeah, but a bad day at the range is better than a good day at (you fill in the blank) ______
Work, or the wife’s Tupperware party maybe even on the golf course(I hate golf)

Wish I could remember the name of the retired army office that was a speaker at a church safety seminar I went to (sheep dog seminar). I remember him say that a golf course is a waste of what could be a really good rifle range.

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
Wish I could remember the name of the retired army office that was a speaker at a church safety seminar I went to (sheep dog seminar). I remember him say that a golf course is a waste of what could be a really good rifle range.

LTC Grossman. He was a medical officer. He has done a lot of gun related research and writing.

On the subject, from a pure accuracy standpoint, try shooting a traditional outdoor one hand bullseye match, where the short range rapid fire target is 25 yards,and the slow fire is shot at fifty. This is what I grew up on, and I just about laugh when people consider a steel target that is 2 feet square at forty yards small and difficult.
I practice routinely with my J frame at 50 yards and if you can develop the skills to hit consistently at 50 yards, shorter ranges become much easier.
One of the most difficult ( for me anyway) aspects of pistol shooting is balancing speed and accuracy- knowing how to really accelerate on the close easy stuff, and then put the brakes on for the precision shots.

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This is just a little advice to new shooters. When "your gun" is shooting "left, low, right....whatever".....99% of the time its not the gun.........IT'S THE AMMO!!

Actually it's time to go to the LGS and buy a new gun, from a different manufacturer....

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Actually it's time to go to the LGS and buy a new gun, from a different manufacturer....

I like the cut of your training jib.