Install "D" hammer spring in Beretta 92's

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October 26, 2019, 12:23 PM

molachi

Install "D" hammer spring in Beretta 92's

I am trying to install the "D" spring in my Beretta 92fs and 92fs compact. The videos I have watched show the pin holding everything together comes out very easily after pushing down on the lanyard loop. I can't get either of mine to budge. Had my son trying to use a hammer and tapping lightly and a little harder.

Anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks

October 26, 2019, 12:30 PM

ruger357

I’ve had a couple that I had to push down while using a punch and hammer lightly.

October 26, 2019, 12:31 PM

1KPerDay

Dumb question but is the hammer down? Push the lanyard loop (if present) firmly against a wooden surface while driving out the pin.

October 26, 2019, 12:55 PM

ceptor781

If it’s a roll pin(typically American manufactured) you’ll need a hammer and punch with a few light taps. The solid pin generally falls out by pushing up on the hammer spring cap. Even the roll pin needs the cap pushed in slightly to relieve spring tension.

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October 26, 2019, 12:55 PM

molachi

quote:
Originally posted by ruger357:
I’ve had a couple that I had to push down while using a punch and hammer lightly.

I was pushing down while my son was trying to drive the pie out.

Dumb question but is the hammer down? Push the lanyard loop (if present) firmly against a wooden surface while driving out the pin.

Yes the hammer was down.

I tried it with the slide on and the slide off as the videos differed on that. Same results either way.

Thanks for the quick replies.

October 26, 2019, 12:59 PM

sprg03-A3

Some have roll pins, some have pins that are of smaller diameter in the center. Are you able to push the lanyard loop and get some movement out of it? If so you have to push the lanyard loop to find the sweet spot. If it is of this type you shouldn't need a hammer to push the pin out.

October 26, 2019, 01:00 PM

molachi

quote:
Originally posted by ceptor781:
If it’s a roll pin(typically American manufactured) you’ll need a hammer and punch with a few light taps. The solid pin generally falls out by pushing up on the hammer spring cap. Even the roll pin needs the cap pushed in slightly to relieve spring tension.

Did use hammer and punch.

Thanks

October 26, 2019, 01:02 PM

molachi

quote:
Originally posted by sprg03-A3:
Some have roll pins, some have pins that are of smaller diameter in the center. Are you able to push the lanyard loop and get some movement out of it? If so you have to push the lanyard loop to find the sweet spot. If it is of this type you shouldn't need a hammer to push the pin out.

I can get the lanyard loop to push in without a problem but pin refuses to come out. Even tried penetrant on it with no luck.

October 26, 2019, 02:32 PM

RioGrande481

I have probably done this 100 times.

First - Just try pushing down harder. Also, it is possible to push too hard and the pin will not budge.

Second - If this does not work put the punch on the pin and then slowly push down on the lanyard loop, when you hit the sweet spot it should pop out.

Interestingly, the only 92s I have had with roll pins were Italian ones. All of my American made pistols have the solid pins. I have converted my two Italian pistols from roll pins to the solid, dog bone shaped pins.

October 26, 2019, 02:51 PM

tk13

quote:
Originally posted by RioGrande481: Also, it is possible to push too hard and the pin will not budge.

This is what I was thinking. It is possible to push the lanyard loop too hard, going past the point where the pressure is off the pin.

October 26, 2019, 03:49 PM

Nick B

quote:
Originally posted by RioGrande481:
I have probably done this 100 times.

First - Just try pushing down harder. Also, it is possible to push too hard and the pin will not budge.

Second - If this does not work put the punch on the pin and then slowly push down on the lanyard loop, when you hit the sweet spot it should pop out.

Interestingly, the only 92s I have had with roll pins were Italian ones. All of my American made pistols have the solid pins. I have converted my two Italian pistols from roll pins to the solid, dog bone shaped pins.

You’re right . It’s been awhile and I have it backwards . I corrected my post .

October 26, 2019, 03:50 PM

Nick B

quote:
Originally posted by Nick B:
Is it a USA made gun or an Italian ? Italian guns use a roll pin that is in real tight and a hammer is needed . The USA guns have a dog bone shaped solid pin that will practically fall out after you press in on the lanyard loop.
I replaced all of the roll pins with the dog bone solid pins which are available from Brownells for a couple of bucks .

October 26, 2019, 04:02 PM

RioGrande481

Nick knows what he is doing. The solid, dog bone pin really is a better option. Easier to remove and reinstall, as well as more durable.

The pins can be found at Brownell’s or Midwest Gun Works. This is such an easy and worthwhile upgrade. While you are at it you could try a lighter hammer spring.

October 27, 2019, 06:21 AM

molachi

Just checked and both guns were made in Italy. I thought about the possibility of pressing too hard, but I have to press down pretty hard to get the lanyard loop to move at all. So chances are that it is going too far. Unfortunately this is starting to turn out to have been a bad idea on my part. May have to start looking for a gunsmith.

October 27, 2019, 08:26 AM

Genorogers

You need to use a ROLL PIN punch. I learned this the hard way.

October 27, 2019, 09:30 AM

molachi

Didn't think about that but makes sense. Guess I need to look for a set.

Thanks

October 27, 2019, 11:27 AM

parabellum

quote:
Originally posted by RioGrande481:
Interestingly, the only 92s I have had with roll pins were Italian ones. All of my American made pistols have the solid pins.

That's my experience as well.

October 27, 2019, 12:12 PM

Genorogers

quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by RioGrande481:
Interestingly, the only 92s I have had with roll pins were Italian ones. All of my American made pistols have the solid pins.
That's my experience as well.

Me too, all Italians had the roll pins, US made always had dog bone pins that practically fell out. One thing I always do since you have the gun apart is to polish up the hammer strut, it's a stamped part and if you stone or file down the edges the spring will slide over it so much smoother. Probably anal...or all in my mind....that didn't sound right but still true.