Interesting. Until this Macro they all would drop the slide. I wonder is they altered something without realizing this was the result.

I don’t see it as an issue for any practical reason since it works fine with a round in the mag but it is odd.

I have been thinking about getting one to replace my ticked out 320C with the WC grip, Romeo 1 and threaded barrel (yes I know that I can't have the comp slide and a TB, but it's OK). I went to the gun store to consign my spare 320C and got to handle one. Wow!! I had been in my safe just before I left and was playing with my Hi Power. They felt very similar!!!!

I held one today and it felt GREAT in the hand. Like a thinner, more ergonomic Glock 19. If the 365 series of guns is the next generation of concealed carry guns by SIG, instead of restricting it to the original micro carry 9mm, then they might have a winner here.

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IIRC they're specifically not called slide release levers anymore, but slide catches, because the 365 is meant to be slingshotted and not released via the "catch lever".

Not completely true. What you are describing is purely technique. With an empty mag it won’t release the slide. Loaded mag, the slide release works just fine. They can call it a dog hair collector but that doesn’t change the function. Whether they want you to or not it releases the slide. Now if they design it so it won’t feed a round then I guess their name will stick. Lol

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because the 365 is meant to be slingshotted and not released via the "catch lever".

Not true. The P365 is absolutely designed to be loaded by releasing the "catch lever" on an open slide.

Page 21 of the P365 operators manual says the following under section 4.4 "Loading the Pistol".

5. Insert a loaded magazine pushing it up into grip module until it locks in place. You
should hear an audible click (figure 4).
6. Release the slide by either:
a. Pressing down on the slide catch lever releasing the slide forward, chambering a
cartridge (Figure 5, Item 1).
b. Slightly pull back on the slide (Figure 5, Item 2)and release it to chamber a
cartridge.

https://www.sigsauer.com/pub/m...-01-Rev00-LR_2_1.pdf

I picked one up today and the grip is slightly bigger in circumference (Med back strap) for it to be a much better feeling and more comfortable gun than my late P365XL. It’s noticeable side x side and hits a sweet spot for me, that until now was reserved for the Shield Plus.

17 rd mags without any extensions is an added bonus.

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Originally posted by sigarms229:

Not true....

Page 21 of the P365 operators manual says...

Yep I see that. Now I have to wonder why I thought that in the first place. I thought everything I read on the internet was supposed to be true?

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Originally posted by Jester814:

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Originally posted by sigarms229:

Not true....

Page 21 of the P365 operators manual says...

Yep I see that. Now I have to wonder why I thought that in the first place. I thought everything I read on the internet was supposed to be true?

Everything. Except the wrong ones.

Ooh, ooh: I can resist anything except temptation—at least about terminology.

SIG has called the slide catch lever the slide catch lever for at least the 20 years since I got my first armorer manual. Why slide “catch” (and magazine catch), and not something involving “release”? Because the first part of the mechanical process in both operations is catching and holding the slide or magazine locked in position. If that isn’t done first, nothing can be released. (Even fishermen know it’s not release then catch.) Other companies sometimes use different terms, but “catch” is a logical term and that’s what SIG has (probably) always used.

And yes, although I prefer and recommend the pull and release method of releasing (now that word) the slide, if we can’t manage that there’s nothing wrong with pressing down on the slide catch lever (except perhaps for the extra wear it causes to the SCL).

Maybe it's me, but 13 rounds in a pocket pistol is almost too heavy. Granted, strapping it into a belt holster makes it easier, but I still think I'd rather not have the extra weight of 5 more.

Shot my Macro today. I was very pleased with it!!!! I wasn't expecting much since I have done any live fire for about three years. I shot MUCH better than I expected. I also shot my regular 365 and my 320 compact with red dot.

A friend and his wife came out to the farm this weekend for a little shooting fun. His newest purchase was a 365 Macro. Having owned a couple 365s myself in the past, I was eager to try it.

I watched her shoot it, I watched him shoot it, and then I gave it a go. Now that I have experienced it, I only have two main thoughts relevant to this discussion.

A. "In hand" is a much different experience than what is "on paper". If the standard 365 is your benchmark, then yes, it's bigger. But if you're used to a G19 (or a S&W M&P 2.0 Compact 3.6 - like me) then it's smaller. But it shoots like a bigger gun. Think G26 in terms of performance, not the width or the height, but how it shoots bigger than it's actual size. I was impressed at how well it would hold a group, and how fast the follow-up shots came.

B. This one may just be me, and I'm old and jaded, but closing the slide on an empty magazine has got to be one of the top three most useless functions in all of the shooting world. If the the manufacturer builds the spring and follower to a light spec, the gun "won't hold open on empty" every time. If they build it to a heavy spec, the gun "won't close on an empty mag" every time. Pick your poison guys. Personally, in any fighting gun, holding open on empty is infinitely more useful than closing the slide on empty.

The two take-aways for the Macro:

1. Try it before you talk shit. I'm guilty of laughing at the memes too.

2. Name the useful application of closing the slide from full lock on an empty mag.

1. It is a great gun. Period. I agree.

2. It isn’t an issue in any practical way.

If people can tear themselves away from the memes, they will discover this gun might be a game changer. G19+ capacity, easy shootability, and slim for carry without giving away any ease of operation.

A lotta rounds in a small frame.

I like it.

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[C]losing the slide on an empty magazine has got to be one of the top three most useless functions in all of the shooting world.

I usually try to observe a “Why ask why?” philosophy when looking at how other people do things that don’t affect me, but you make a valid point—and especially if something is difficult: If it’s hard to do and not necessary to do, why do it?

But there is also another factor, and that’s that it is one of the many firearms safety issues we should consider. The proper first step in unloading a gun with a detachable magazine is to remove the magazine. That ensures that nothing from the magazine gets chambered in the process. Having the magazine out when completing the process of clearing the chamber and releasing the slide also ensures that nothing gets chambered from the magazine inadvertently.

“But the magazine is empty. That’s the whole point of wanting to release the slide on an empty magazine.” Yes, just as the gun Alec Baldwin had was empty and therefore it was all right for him to point it at someone and pull the trigger. Firearms safety rules are intended to be redundant and cumulative, and not having a magazine in the gun when clearing it to put it away for storage or for other reasons just adds one more layer to the safety cake.