I recently purchased a sig P365 380. Shooting off a bench rest at 15 feet, it shoots low and left about two inches. Can I adjust these sights?

Rainman

Google combat sight picture. That’s probably the low problem. Sigs shoot to behind the dot.

Left is probably you pulling it. If it’s confirmed to not be induced then you can drift the rear sight.

I would have someone else of known quality shoot the gun before I drifted the sights or bought a new front sight.

Combat sight on SIGs is now center of bull. Superimposed and it's right on target. That may not be what you want, which is where another front sight with a different height would put it where you want.

Makes range day interesting with one gun (old school) resting on the blade, another combat sight, a rifle something else.

Have somebody else shoot it before you go swapping sights. Impact to the low left is typically shooter-induced for a right-handed shooter.

Definitely have another shooter try.

Not trying to bag on the new guy, just calling it as I see it:

It’s you, not the gun.

You have a flinch. You’re anticipating. You can move your sights, but when you start doing things right, you’ll miss high right.

To prove it out, try shooting weak hand or have another competent shooter try.

I’ve only come across one pistol that needed its sights moved. It was Walther PP my buddy bought used. The previous owner had apparently drifted the sights to compensate for his poor fundamentals.

And that “wheel of doom” above needs to go away. The only reasonable version is:


It’s a little crass, but accurate.

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Originally posted by BuddyChryst:
Not trying to bag on the new guy, just calling it as I see it:

It’s you, not the gun.

You have a flinch. You’re anticipating. You can move your sights, but when you start doing things right, you’ll miss high right.

To prove it out, try shooting weak hand or have another competent shooter try.

I’ve only come across one pistol that needed its sights moved. It was Walther PP my buddy bought used. The previous owner had apparently drifted the sights to compensate for his poor fundamentals.

And that “wheel of doom” above needs to go away. The only reasonable version is:


It’s a little crass, but accurate.

Yep and everyone is new at one time or another either shooting a pistol/rifle/shotgun or moving to a different platform.
I'd say it's the pistol also and I've only seen one pistol that didn't shoot POA/POI. It was a Sig but someone changed the sights on it. Thanks to this board, I found the correct number sights I was supposed to have and fixed the problem.

The low part is almost certainly due to improper sight picture or bad trigger pull.

The 'to the left' part may be due to bad sight installation. My last couple of 365s had sights that weren't centered well. They weren't as bad as 2" off at 5yds, but they were slightly off enough that I felt the need to break out my sight pusher.

It's probably the user, but don't be so sure it's not the gun, especially a recent production P365.

The "low" part is not always shooter induced. Sig has a different sight picture than other brands of guns. I had to change the front sight on my P365, as I was shooting low as well and after the change, I was point on.

It’s a self defense pistol, as are most Sigs. The dot on the front sight, should be the bullet hole in perp. The real target the gun was designed for won’t have a target sticker on it to aim at

Yea whatever. I still prefer for bullet to hit at the top of blade. Then I can actually see what I’m aiming for and you don’t need a target sticker for that. Combat sight pictures are lazy manufacturing tricks. Making POA = POI requires a bit of effort on the makers part. Hitting behind a dot is easy and sloppy.

OK guys...you are jumping to the easy answers. I pointed out that I was shooting from a rest. And yes, at the same time, I had my excellent shooting friend shoot and he hit my pattern. It is not the trigger pull.

Well, you should read carefully because we already answered your question. If it’s not you, the rear sight can be drifted for windage. The front sight is either an improper sight picture or if that’s not the case or you aren’t willing to adjust you must buy a lower height front sight or a higher height rear sight. That’s it. If the gun is truly shooting low and left and you are using a proper sight picture you must drift the rear sight and purchase a lower front sight/higher rear sight which will move your groupings up. Your choice or which you want to replace. On the front/rear sight there is a number, it is either a 6 or an 8. Call Sig and get the LOWER front sight or conversely a HIGHER rear sight. Either or.

So they say.



https://www.shootingillustrate...art-is-junk-science/

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Originally posted by rainman1977:
OK guys...you are jumping to the easy answers. I pointed out that I was shooting from a rest. And yes, at the same time, I had my excellent shooting friend shoot and he hit my pattern. It is not the trigger pull.

Then drift the rear sight and install the front sight that puts the POI where you want it. I use Dawson’s fiber optic fronts usually but for a defensive pistol you may want to get a tritium one from SIG or elsewhere. Note that SIG usually measures the heights of their front sights including the dovetail, while many others measure the height from the top of the slide and don’t include the dovetail.

This may help you figure out how tall your new front sight should be.

https://dawsonprecision.com/sight-calculator/

Adjusting or replacing the sights is the last thing to 'try' or do. I've pretty much found that when ever the handgun is shooting left it is me. Jerking or finger placement is my guess..... only because I've done it many times and still do.

Nope. The OP is adamant it’s not him or his buddy. Good news is that drifting a sight is inexpensive. Buying a new front or rear slightly more so. Of course when your trigger control improves you might find your gun shooting high now. I guess the moral is don’t throw away the old sight.

I've always been a pretty good shot... but on occasion depending on the pistol I would sometimes shoot left and slightly low.... folks worked on my grip and not jerking and such.... then I got a Sig P320 compact with the Romeo sight.... shot it pretty well but then one day was on occasion hitting to the left.. took my time and realized you could see the red dot move slightly to the left as I pulled the trigger because of how I had it placed.... I could not see this with iron sights but you can with a red dot. Now I will say with a smaller handgun like in this discussion it would be harder for a person with normal hands to not center on the trigger but it can happen. With the larger semi-autos I often have to make a conscious effort to get the right finger placement.

I like that article. I will remember the numbering system for about two days tops. Lol

That was a great explanation of it though.