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Originally posted by loki993:

Now HK are you listening please complete my life and make the USP in 10mm or the HK45

Oh yes. The USP would be very nice in 10mm. Particularly if they can make one as an Elite longslide.

The only problem is that H&K only seems to make guns that the police and military want. 10MM is more of a sportsman's caliber now.

The only reason 10mm will ever die is if all of their brass cases fail to contain the extreme power and rupture simultaneously around the world.

Oh, was a sad day it would...shall be.

 
My SIG P220-10mm is the most accurate pistol I own. From 900fps 200gr reloads to Underwood 1300fps 180gr Gold Dots, I can place them exactly where they need to go. Not so with any of my other SIG pistols. I don't really understand why, P320 9mm should be easier and more accurate, but the 10mm blows it away. Maybe the 320 has a bit faster splits, the but 10mm is the accuracy king.
 

*Think of all the kittehs*

The horror!

Wow! My 10mm P220 needs a companion like a long barreled XD(M)
I used to send a request to Springfield once or twice a year requesting a 10mm XD. I suppose I'm obligated to buy one if they go on sale.
Thee is more variety and better prices for 10mm ammo right now than ever before it seems. The SIG loads are good, the S&B loads are not that expensive and not wimpy. I haven't seen a box of Silvertips in a couple of years though.
Now if Ruger would just make a 10mm Mini-14 (Mini-10) i'd be giddy

Springfield introduces a new gun without a marketing campaign packed with Under Armour clad crossfit models? I'm still waiting for a "this changes everything" tag line. Just because they introduced a 10mm doesn't mean they are by any means an innovator. A 10mm 1911 is old news. A new polymer striker fired 10mm is a little more unique but I still think the XD is the most overrated striker fired gun.

Good for SA! Now, if only Ruger would put a 10mm out in a GP100!!

Just think of an XDs in 10mm lol

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Originally posted by mhughes:
Just think of an XDs in 10mm lol

Would not be that hard to do. They all have basically a 45 frame.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
10mm isn't going anywhere, in either direction.

Given how many new 10mms have recently made it to the market and how many more seem to pop up from time to time, I'm not sure this is true.

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More to the point Springfield needed to do this. SIG doesn't.

Perhaps, but it's generally better to do something when you can rather than when you need to - what you do tends to turn out better that way.

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Originally posted by Billy346:

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Originally posted by loki993:

Now HK are you listening please complete my life and make the USP in 10mm or the HK45

Oh yes. The USP would be very nice in 10mm. Particularly if they can make one as an Elite longslide.

The only problem is that H&K only seems to make guns that the police and military want. 10MM is more of a sportsman's caliber now.

I would give valuable parts of my body for a longslide HK 10mm

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
Of course 10mm isn't dead, that is why Springfield is playing follow the leader and putting out a 10mm. Please don't think that they are in any way an innovator, or keeping it from extinction. They're in it for the payday. Good for them.

But they ain't rescuing 10mm, 10's doing fine without them.

Also, it's worth noting that Springfield once offered a 10mm called the Omega. It's a bit of a curiosity, most of them were 10mm, some were multicaliber.

and a pretty decent pistol it was,

peters stahl out of Germany made the slide assy,

had one thru the shop back in the fall,

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Originally posted by smithnsig:

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Originally posted by mhughes:
Just think of an XDs in 10mm lol

Would not be that hard to do. They all have basically a 45 frame.

Not sure if I'd want to try that one.

Sig spent a few years before they said their P220 would handle a 10mm.

Glock does one better. They make a 10mm and then change it to a .45 for people who like underpowered rounds and having fewer of them.

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Originally posted by husdat:
Perhaps, they should make a UMP10 as UMP45's successor. Then, put in a COD or Battlefield game and sales of 10mm will boost. But that would bump the price of 10mm in the short term, and I dont like it. Havent stocked up any yet.

They did make a 10mm UMP, and Mp5 as well. Where you been? Also, you're overestimating the effect of putting 10mm in a couple video games. Bump the price of 10mm? No.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
...They make a 10mm and then change it to a .45 for people who like underpowered rounds and having fewer of them.

Ouch

A SA Range Officer in 10mm would be on my short list, good news

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Originally posted by Billy346:

The only problem is that H&K only seems to make guns that the police and military want. 10MM is more of a sportsman's caliber now.

Nail on the head. H&K puts about 90% of their resources into mil/LEO desired equipment. They are good at what they do.

Back when I was a little younger and at the peak of my fitness, I ran a G20 10mm through a number of high stress courses of fire during a week long Vickers training. I could run the 10mm well when the courses of fire were low volume, there was less stress on follow up shot speed, and I wasn't tired. When the intensity picked up and I got to my second reload things got bad. I've been known for having an excellent base and grip, but running that 10mm under stress after doing 3min of burpies was damn hard. I was soon left behind by the less skilled G17 9mm shooters in accuracy and speed. I decided to finish the week using an instructor's G17 9mm, and I ended up catching up and beating those guys out. I sold my 10mm as a serious antipersonnel defensive pistol, but I would definitely consider getting another if I wanted a good woods gun. The 10mm does a better job of punching an expanded hollow point a good 18" in soft tissue, and that is what I would want in a animal defensive caliber.