Is the 10mm dead? Springfield says No!

March 08, 2017, 10:06 PM

TENWOLVES

I live in Southern Oregon, the 10mm isn't dead up here, I have a Glock 20 gen4 10mm and my Sig P220 Hunter 10mm, both awesome guns, and a variety of ammo isn't hard to find as it was a few years ago..more manufactures are coming out with their own versions of the 10mm, that's a good thing...

March 08, 2017, 10:13 PM

Il Cattivo

"Dear Sig Sauer: I know you're already committed to producing existing models of the 320 like a bat out of hell for at least a year or two to come. But if Springfield can produce a polymer 10mm..."

March 09, 2017, 08:34 AM

Fenris

10mm, because having to shoot twice is silly.

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March 09, 2017, 08:47 AM

roberth

I have a Sig 10mm, I'm interested in the 1911 10mm.

March 09, 2017, 09:03 AM

MarioG

I have a number of 10mm handguns, and an hk mp5-40 clone that I can shoot 40sw or 10mm out of.

Just got an mpx gen 2. All we need is this in 10mm as well as 40sw and 357 calibers! Have heard of no plans to offer the mpx in 10mm.

March 09, 2017, 09:07 AM

smithnsig

One would think that a 10mm pistol might be a little difficult to tune with the wide
Variation of ammo weight and velocity, which created a wide variation of slide velocities. Moreso than the 45 anyway.

March 09, 2017, 09:10 AM

soggy_spinout

S&B 180gr 10mm at $17 per 50ct box confirms that it's far from dead. However nice it may be, we don't need a latecomer like Springfield to confirm that 10mm is not dead. Just saying.

These days at our shop we've seen more interest in 10mm than we do in its offshoot 40S&W. The only problem is the lack of available firearm choices beyond Glock, P220 Kryptek (because Lipsey's is perpetually out-of-stock on the remaining 10mm SIG variants and they and not SIG are the sole source), occasional 1911s and the rare EAA Tanfoglio (rare for us because we don't normally stock the brand).

March 09, 2017, 09:28 AM

MarioG

quote:
Originally posted by soggy_spinout:
S&B 180gr 10mm at $17 per 50ct box confirms that it's far from dead. However nice it may be, we don't need a latecomer like Springfield to confirm that 10mm is not dead. Just saying.

These days at our shop we've seen more interest in 10mm than we do in its offshoot 40S&W. The only problem is the lack of available firearm choices beyond Glock, P220 Kryptek (because Lipsey's is perpetually out-of-stock on the remaining 10mm SIG variants and they and not SIG are the sole source), occasional 1911s and the rare EAA Tanfoglio (rare for us because we don't normally stock the brand).

Guess Dan Wesson jumped up prices after CZ bought them. Got a number (6!) of used 10mm Dan Wessons before the prices of new went up, and the used followed upward.

March 09, 2017, 09:52 AM

CQB60

XDM-10, very intriguing. Especially in 3.8 Compact format...

March 09, 2017, 10:21 AM

BBMW

What Springfield coming out with a 10mm tells me is that they have slack in there production capacity, and need a new caliber to fill it and boost sales. I REALLY don't think SIG has that problem.

And I wonder how well the limited production 10mm P220 sold?

quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
"Dear Sig Sauer: I know you're already committed to producing existing models of the 320 like a bat out of hell for at least a year or two to come. But if Springfield can produce a polymer 10mm..."

March 09, 2017, 10:38 AM

loki993

I have a g20 but even still a 10mm XDM M sounds cool.

Now HK are you listening please complete my life and make the USP in 10mm or the HK45

March 09, 2017, 10:51 AM

cjevans

... good news from Springfield then.

I think that for me, a 10mm would be ideal for backpacking/back country.

Been looking at the G29 - the smaller size/weight for the pack.

A compact/sub compact P320 in 10mm? I'd like that.

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March 09, 2017, 11:21 AM

TexasRaider

Great. Now if they'd only terminate their use of that ridiculous, superfluous, unnecessarily-complicating, retrograde grip safety.

They seems to be as doggedly intractable and antagonistically mule-stubborn about it as S&W is over their preposterously inane Hillary Hole...

March 09, 2017, 11:55 AM

Il Cattivo

quote:
S&B 180gr 10mm at $17 per 50ct box confirms that it's far from dead. However nice it may be, we don't need a latecomer like Springfield to confirm that 10mm is not dead. Just saying.

Just a heads up - scuttlebutt on another site is that the stuff is loaded to be a bit underwhelming.

quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
they have slack in their production capacity

And they need to boost their position in the market a little bit if they can. But that's not the point - if Springfield Armory can do it, SIG can do it better.

March 09, 2017, 12:23 PM

Newf

Remington brought out their R1 Hunter in 10mm longslide form too just a few months back, another reasonably priced option - 10mm is far from dead.

https://www.remington.com/hand.../1911-r1-10mm-hunter

March 09, 2017, 03:45 PM

arcwelder

Of course 10mm isn't dead, that is why Springfield is playing follow the leader and putting out a 10mm. Please don't think that they are in any way an innovator, or keeping it from extinction. They're in it for the payday. Good for them.

But they ain't rescuing 10mm, 10's doing fine without them.

Also, it's worth noting that Springfield once offered a 10mm called the Omega. It's a bit of a curiosity, most of them were 10mm, some were multicaliber.

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March 09, 2017, 04:15 PM

BBMW

10mm isn't going anywhere, in either direction. It's a active, if somewhat niche round, with a fairly small, but very loyal following. But it missed it's chance to be a major LE chambering, which is what would take it to the next level.

More to the point Springfield needed to do this. SIG doesn't.

quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
they have slack in their production capacity

And they need to boost their position in the market a little bit if they can. But that's not the point - if Springfield Armory can do it, SIG can do it better.

March 09, 2017, 05:57 PM

husdat

Perhaps, they should make a UMP10 as UMP45's successor. Then, put in a COD or Battlefield game and sales of 10mm will boost. But that would bump the price of 10mm in the short term, and I dont like it. Havent stocked up any yet.