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So, I have a question about Glock triggers.

I recently had the opportunity to handle a 3rd generation Glock. The trigger pull was not like I remembered it.

I guess I should start with my limited past experience with the Glock. I rented a Glock at my first opportunity , I think it wasn’t long after they were first imported. I did not like anything about the handling, things like the grip angle, grip shape, sights, trigger pull, slide release. I gave them two or three more chances, Including the 19 when it came out. So I guess they would have been first to early second generation.

My recollection of the trigger pull was that it was a mushy, longish double action. The more recent one that I tried had like a two stage trigger that had a light pull, then a sudden wall, then a heavy release that felt almost like a heavy bad single action pull.

Am I mis-remembering what the trigger was like? Am I confusing the Glock with the likes of the S&W Sigma? Or has Glock changed the trigger?

A further question: Is there any type of modification that can give the Glock a decent feeling double action trigger along the lines of a Walther PPS or P99QA? Those being similar to the Glock in that they also have a partially re-cocking striker.


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Glocks have all had a trigger like you described. Lighter takeup, then a heavier "wall" prior to the break.

Glock did change their trigger a little, but only recently with the new Gen 5 Glocks. They use a slightly different trigger/connector assembly, so have a little different feel. Though still similar to the traditional Glock trigger feel.

There are any number of aftermarket trigger bars, trigger springs, and connectors for the various generations of Glocks that will change the feel of the trigger pull. I'm sure there's some out there that will mimic a DA trigger pull like you're wanting, though I've never sought that out specifically myself.

Or, you can potentially achieve a pull similar to what you're wanting with factory Glock parts, by using a factory "NY1" trigger spring alongside a (-) factory connector. This reportedly results in a heavier but more consistent trigger pull, along the lines of a DA trigger.
 
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I have found the Gen 5 triggers to be their best.
Glock does sell their own performance trigger they sell by itself. I think it only fits gen 5's.


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It’s a Glock. Every one I’ve ever owned, or been issued, felt like I was holding the wrong end of a baseball bat. And the trigger felt like a tuned Craftsman staple gun.

But, as long as they’re not tinkered with, futzed with, aftermarket crapped up. They do one thing pretty well. They shoot.
 
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It's a hard thing for a trigger snob. But after you've been spoiled it's hard to go back. Maybe that's why I never bought any tupperware yet. I've said it before, that if I was stuck in the Amazon, I'd want a Glock hands down.

But in all seriousness, I appreciate Glocks for what they are and do well, as I can't argue with the millions of excellent shooters to love them and shoot them far better than I shoot any of my guns with "better" triggers.




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Over the generations--and sometimes within a single generation--their triggers have been 'adjusted' by Glock. I never owned a Gen1 G17 and only shot them a couple of times back in the late 80s/early 90s, and those experiences are so far removed from today that I can't rightfully say that I remember how the Gen1 trigger action was. But I have owned Gen2 Glocks right on up to the current Gen5, and can offer my thoughts and opinions on those.

My take: in general the Gen2 to Gen5 trigger actions can be easily described as being on the mushy side. Initial takeup to a wall/stacking point of varying sharpness/distinctness, followed by another varying degrees of creep and grittiness as the pull continues after the wall until the trigger finally breaks. Read as a whole: generally it's a mushy experience. Back in its inception, I'd describe the Gen3 trigger as having a slightly more distinct wall and a sharper break than my Gen2 G19. When I finally bought a Gen3 G19 around 2008 it felt more or less the same as what I remembered from nearly a decade before, and still a shade more "precise" (yeah, that's too strong of an adjective given the context) than my Gen2 was. While there are subtleties from gun to gun, my opinion is that current manufacture Gen3 G19s (both Austrian and US) mimic that same general character somewhat faithfully, at least from all of those Gen3s that I've sampled on occasion that have come through our bound book. And this distinction existing despite being made alongside Gen4s and Gen5s at the same time, where one my think that some later knowledge or practice might migrate back to the older design (like the changing of the Gen3 slide finish and the elimination of Tenifer steel pretreatment during the Gen4 years).

Gen4 triggers taken as a whole got noticeably mushier even to the point where it could be described as being sloppy, except with the micro 9s (43/43X/48), which Glock adorned with a relatively heavy break. With the advent of the Gen5 redesign Glock managed to dial the mushiness back some, though I don't feel it's all that close to where the Gen3 triggers were/are at. Gen5 trigger actions are more Gen4 than Gen3, at least how I experience them. None of these trigger action iterations are what I or most anyone would describe as being "great" or something that you would want on a precision target pistol, but in the end they each are quite usable in the context that a Glock was originally designed and built for. They're service guns designed to do service gun type stuff.

But nitpicking each if you haven't gleaned by now, I'm of the opinion that the Gen3 Glock has the best (another too strong descriptor for this context) trigger action of the bunch, regardless of whether that Gen3 was made in 1999 or 2024. YMMV.


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All of my Glocks are Gen5 with the exception of one Gen4 19 that has a ghost connector. I have owned at least one of every generation with the exception on Gen1. I do believe the Gen5 trigger are very good for what they are. Also, one of the trigger snobs that hated everything about Glock when compared to other brands. I guess the biggest difference around Glock triggers is that I was taught how to shoot them and in doing so I learned how to effectively shoot DA/SA guns better than I ever dreamed possible. For many reasons, I am most likely to grab a Glock when I take a training class. I mostly carry a P365, but a Glock 19 is also in the carry rotation and they get frequent range time. So yes, the triggers have changed a bit over the years.


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Thanks guys. I guess I was just mis-remembering.


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