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Any Beretta shooters? A question on frame wear.

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June 06, 2017, 02:15 AM
copaup
Any Beretta shooters? A question on frame wear.
Any Beretta experts on hand? I've got a question.

I picked up one of the Beretta Wilson Combat 92Gs. I like the way it feels in hand. I like the way it looks. I LOVE the way it shoots. I took it out today and put about 200 rounds through it of mixed ammo ranging from 115 gr ball to 147 gr HST. Reliability was flawless and the gun stunningly accurate. It made ME look like an expert shooter.

And then I got home to clean it. There are two small but noticeable areas of peening where the barrel makes contact with the frame at the end of its rearward travel. The area in question is the aluminum block right in front of the feed ramp. The square block under the chamber seems to hit this pretty hard under recoil. Is this normal and self limiting or is this something to be concerned about? It's been awhile since I had a 92 variant and I don't remember if my last one developed the same marks or not.

I'm aware that steel striking aluminum is going to make a mark, but I'm a bit concerned about such obvious wear popping up so quickly. If there is a problem I'd prefer to get it addressed now before real damage occurs. At the same time I'm wondering if I'm looking at this too hard because of the price tag...
June 06, 2017, 02:30 AM
GP229
My .40 cal exhibits that, but I bought it used with unknown round count and it was that way when I got it.

My 9mm doesn't that I can recall, but I keep the rails and contact points like that well greased with heavy Slide Glide or Lucas grease.
June 06, 2017, 03:09 AM
copaup
Well, after a bit of skulking around Beretta forums, it appears to be like the Sig Smiley; normal wear that shows up early and then doesn't progress. Gun is brand new, so I'll just shoot the snot out of it and if it gets worse I'll take advantage of the Beretta warranty in 2 years and 11 months. Wink MAYBE I'll go to a slightly stiffer recoil spring if I shoot +p regularly.

Honestly, if it was a standard 92 I probably wouldn't have even noticed it.
June 06, 2017, 08:27 AM
Nick B
I have two M9's and a 92A1 .Wear in those spots is normal and will not progress.
June 06, 2017, 09:04 AM
GaryBF
I wish you had posted a photo. I am not seeing anything like that on my Wilson Combat 92G.
June 06, 2017, 07:07 PM
MHANNA310
Hey do not be alarmed...This is perfectly normal wear...I like to lube those areas with grease..That seems to cut down on the wear on the slide rubbing against the front sight frame. I personally use Lucas gun grease or tetra gun grease on all my guns for the slide and rails...


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June 06, 2017, 07:39 PM
copaup
The area in question.


June 06, 2017, 08:02 PM
GaryBF
Wilson sells these frame buffers, but I don't know if they would help for your problem.

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Sh...ta/productinfo/700B/
June 07, 2017, 10:34 AM
piedrarc
That doesn't look right. My used and abused 92 with close to 25K doesn't look anything like that.

As a matter of fact, none of my 92's exhibit that type of deformation. I wouldn't even consider that wear.


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June 07, 2017, 12:52 PM
PGT
I sent that pic to a friend and he replied its normal and won't progress. Just grease it and shoot away.

I'm with piedrarc in saying I haven't seen this on any of my 22 examples of the platform but now I'm gonna go have to check them to be sure of that.
June 07, 2017, 05:12 PM
copaup
The theory on one of the Beretta forums is that some frames have a small step on the face that the barrel contacts as a manufacturing artifact. As the barrel block is flat, it will impact this step and deform it until the frame is flat. This deformation results in the 2 bumps. Annoying, but cosmetic only. People with affected frames either deal with it or hit it with some fine grit paper to remove the marks.

They look worse in the pic than they actually are. It does drive my OCD nuts. I'll shoot the crap out of the gun and if it doesn't get worse I'll polish the area flat and touch up with aluminum black. If it does get worse I'll address it with Beretta.
June 07, 2017, 05:41 PM
copaup
I went ahead and forwarded the pic to Beretta. I'll post their response.
June 07, 2017, 08:35 PM
cyberiad
I would check the locking block pin to see if it's tight and that the locking block doesn't have any 'abnormal' movement. The locking block 'lugs' are supposed to stop against the frame in front of where the peening is which should prevent the barrel from hitting the frame in that area hard enough to cause this.
June 07, 2017, 08:39 PM
Mike748
My "new" 92S looked like that after 200 rounds.
June 13, 2017, 07:38 PM
copaup
Beretta's response was"Our gunsmith looked at the pictures and said this was an issue of no functional concern," but to send it in if I wished on their dime. I'm kind of undecided honestly. I may put another couple hundred rounds through it this weekend and see if it gets any worse or remains steady.
June 13, 2017, 07:46 PM
Skins2881
I'm buying me a beat to shit one once the 320's replace them. They are tanks, pretty tanks at that. Little wear just shows its been used.



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