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Recently got a German Frame P226, short extractor, 9mm and perfect SA trigger. The DA is gritty and choppy. It will work but I’m not a fan. Found a couple obscure videos and one other site that even approaches the smoothing of the double action. From what I can tell polishing the trigger bar and Main Spring strut and possibly the double action interface with a hammer might be good enough to smooth things out. Any thoughts?
 
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Strut polish and 19 pound spring will do wonders. And it is usually about all I do to mine.




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Did a good strut polish with little improvement. This is also my experience with CZs. Strut polish doesn’t do much. I might next do the top of the strut. Then shoot before going further.

Examining the pics of the DAK, it looks like the LEAD prong of the strut is the only one that engages the hammer in DA. So I light ONLY polish this one because SA is perfect.

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You can isolate where it's felling gritty.

Cock the hammer and pull the trigger, keep trigger all the way back.
With the trigger all the way back you can move the hammer through it's range of motion.

Then holding the hammer all the way forward and you can cycle the trigger through it's range.
That can give you an idea where to start.

So far all I have done is break and smooth the edges on the strut and the trigger bar where it makes contact with the frame in a couple spots.

I run a 19# mainspring in everything and mine feel pretty good to me.
The Select could use some more help somewhere but it's not to bad.
For myself the Wile Coyote School of Gunsmithing courses don't go any further than that so if I want it to be better it would need to go to Burke.
 
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Strut polish and 19 pound spring will do wonders. And it is usually about all I do to mine.


I just did his to mine and I really like it. Much better trigger pull. I will eventually do all my Sigs.
 
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Did a good strut polish with little improvement. This is also my experience with CZs. Strut polish doesn’t do much. I might next do the top of the strut. Then shoot before going further.

Examining the pics of the DAK, it looks like the LEAD prong of the strut is the only one that engages the hammer in DA. So I light ONLY polish this one because SA is perfect.


Wait, DAK and SA don’t make much sense. Which is it?


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Strut polish and 19 pound spring will do wonders. And it is usually about all I do to mine.


I just did his to mine and I really like it. Much better trigger pull. I will eventually do all my Sigs.


Which Yoshimora worked at the academy range back in '95? That (BAMF) is the one that polished up my 226. I think it was $25 for him to do it, and it was done in about an hour.
Very good job, and a noticeable difference.
It's money well spent.


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Originally posted by jljones:
Strut polish and 19 pound spring will do wonders. And it is usually about all I do to mine.


I just did his to mine and I really like it. Much better trigger pull. I will eventually do all my Sigs.


Which Yoshimora worked at the academy range back in '95? That (BAMF) is the one that polished up my 226. I think it was $25 for him to do it, and it was done in about an hour.
Very good job, and a noticeable difference.
It's money well spent.


Yosh is a BAMF. Where did they send you?
 
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Though I’m not overly sure of the intended definition of “gritty”, I had noticed some form of that issue within the DA creep of my old WG 226 after I had swapped out the original mainspring assembly for the newer E2-style parts (including the factory spec “MS-1” spring). I didn’t think much of it until I recently bought a new 220 and immediately realized how much smoother the new 220’s pull was, by comparison.
I then lightly smoothed the strut under the spring (manually holding a dremel tip). But I also turned the MS so that the spring tip (on the hammer side of the spring) somewhat locked / pressed against the very small tab of the strut. Perhaps that was unnecessary and irrelevant but i could feel the “grit” as I turned that spring and wondered if spring orientation was partially the culprit.
Regardless, one or both of those steps fully addressed the issue and the creep is very smooth given that I haven’t pursued a trigger job or lighter spring tension. And I’ve since sent the 226 in for the Sig service plan and the even-newer factory spring feels just as good.
 
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Strut polish and 19 pound spring will do wonders. And it is usually about all I do to mine.


I just did his to mine and I really like it. Much better trigger pull. I will eventually do all my Sigs.


Which Yoshimora worked at the academy range back in '95? That (BAMF) is the one that polished up my 226. I think it was $25 for him to do it, and it was done in about an hour.
Very good job, and a noticeable difference.
It's money well spent.


Yosh is a BAMF. Where did they send you?


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Like I said, it's "fun" again! I enjoy it! I've got a great group of Coppers that like doing the job, and are doing the right thing and the right way. A little guidance on case & arrest reports.
I'm (pretty sure I'm) doing the right thing, and getting shown the how's and why's by some great bosses. Then again, I've had some phenomenal examples through the past 23 years.

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