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| I have owned a P7M8 or two. I liked them, but people came along and waved enough cash around to prove they like them more. The P7M8 is the way to go in my books if you are going to shoot more than 3 mags in a row. The regular P7 gets frying pan hot and has no heat shield. I have always liked the paddle mag release, in both HK and Walther pistols anyway. If HK did another run and they sold new for $1,000 I might be tempted. I owned one of the specially marked last 500 produced, so I doubt this will happen.
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| So are all standard P7's also PSP's? Because this one I'm looking at doesn't have PSP on the right side of the slide. It only says HK INC ARLINGTON VA. Some I see say Sterling VA. Also the date code is IB not sure when that it was made. |
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| I would always go with the M8 variant because it has all the upgrades (especially the later versions). But between the 3 pistols approved and sanctioned for the new "German Police Pistol" at the time, I'd take the P225 all day. I have all three, and they're some of my favorite pistols. The Walther P5 is probably my most cherished, but if I had to carry one, it would be the P6. |
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| quote: Originally posted by LincolnSixEcho:
So are all standard P7's also PSP's? Because this one I'm looking at doesn't have PSP on the right side of the slide. It only says HK INC ARLINGTON VA. Some I see say Sterling VA. Also the date code is IB not sure when that it was made.
The one that PARA posted is one of the last runs of P7s. A P7 is often referred to as a PSP because the original P7s were marked/called PSPs. The one he has is a limited run and highly sought after by collectors. The one you are looking at is also pretty collectible because it is a commercial import versus a police trade-in. The Arlington IB date stamps have the protruding magazine release. The flush mag release didn't happen for the commercial imports until sometime during the ID date stamps.
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| Well it turns out that the P7 for sale was a scam. It was an Armslist listing and I should have known when I saw the condition and the price. Too good to be true I suppose. Got an email that said it was flagged as a scam actually. Guess I need to keep looking, ugh. Thanks to all who helped with he info at least. Truth be told I'm not sure if I want the P7 or the P7M8 now. Either would do I suppose. |
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| For what it's worth the P7 in any variety is a love it or hate it gun typically. I happen to love them. Yeah they get hot but so does a J-Frame after 50 rounds. I love the weird Teutonic staple gun engineering. It allows for a very safe pistol with a very good trigger that is instinctively cocked and uncocked with very little effort. Combine that with the fixed barrel and it will make you look good after 12 cups of coffee and a panic attack. Yeah they are weird and they have their drawbacks but honestly they are a really well thought out over engineered defensive arm.
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| quote: Originally posted by cslinger: I love the weird Teutonic staple gun engineering. It allows for a very safe pistol with a very good trigger that is instinctively cocked and uncocked with very little effort. Combine that with the fixed barrel and it will make you look good after 12 cups of coffee and a panic attack.
Yeah they are weird and they have their drawbacks but honestly they are a really well thought out over engineered defensive arm.
+1! I'd like to add that their design also makes them one of the easiest pistols to do a one handed slide release with too, when a reload is taking place. All one needs to do is to squeeze the cocking lever and a fresh round is decisively stripped from the magazine and chambered!
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| ^^^^^thats what isn't like to find like yours and Para's KH. |
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| I owned both. The PSP was better for carry since the mag release didn't stick out the side. The PSP got hot real quick limiting practice to about 4 magazines worth. The M8 was better, but not that much. I sold mine and went with a Walther PPS when they came out. I have no regrets.
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| quote: Originally posted by XLT:
P7M8 Chantilly seam to be the most desirable and $$$$ I liked mine but it really got hot after a few magazines.
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| I purchased and kept both models. Hardly ever shoot them but they're hard to find so I doubt I'll ever part with them. Made back when H&K pistols had innovative designs.
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| I have a P7M8 Chantilly. It's one of my favorite pieces. Funny thing is I have no interest in any other HK pistols but the P7. |
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| I'm pretty sure the PSP with the KH date code in Para's post were the last run of these made for the German Police and what was left over were offered for sale no the civilian market. Note the heel release on his. It's the more desirable style in that it does not protrude below the grip panels. Magazines are not as likely to be inadvertently dropped with this set up compared to the earlier style.
On a different note, some P7M8s around 1984 had what was referred to as a "fat trigger". They didn't make them very long and IIRC there was a recall and pistols were re-fitted with the standard trigger. Can anyone confirm that? I actually thought the fat trigger looked kinda neat. |
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| quote: Originally posted by kaschi:
I'm pretty sure the PSP with the KH date code in Para's post were the last run of these made for the German Police and what was left over were offered for sale no the civilian market. Note the heel release on his. It's the more desirable style in that it does not protrude below the grip panels. Magazines are not as likely to be inadvertently dropped with this set up compared to the earlier style.
On a different note, some P7M8s around 1984 had what was referred to as a "fat trigger". They didn't make them very long and IIRC there was a recall and pistols were re-fitted with the standard trigger. Can anyone confirm that? I actually thought the fat trigger looked kinda neat.
I have heard this as well and my Chantilly P7M8 has the "fat" trigger. |
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| I had two grade A police trade ins, stupidly I sold them for slightly more than I paid for them. Now they are double what I paid.
The M8 offers a few improvements over the PSP, but for the price if you want to carry one I'd opt for the PSP.
The M8, M10 and M13's in near mint condition are money in the bank. They are no longer made and will only continue to increase in value, especially the M13.
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