I was using my new Python after our local gunsmith performed an action job. This guy is more then competent and very honest. Occasionally, I would get a dud. I was using Winchester white box 38 Special that could be about 10 years old. I tried to it fire again with no luck. What do you think hard primer or what?This message has been edited. Last edited by: Marlin Fan,
July 09, 2023, 07:44 PM
huskerlrrp
Will they not go off in single action or double action? My guess is you need to go a little higher on the main spring force to make it dependable. It's a trade off for double action pull weight and primer ignition. For a Smith and Wesson N frame, it's as simple as a turn of a screw under the grip to get a little more force. I've never worked on a Python so I can't say.
July 09, 2023, 07:57 PM
1KPerDay
Try it in SA mode and if they go off (but not in DA) it's likely a too-light mainspring.
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July 09, 2023, 07:58 PM
Marlin Fan
Double action.
July 09, 2023, 08:12 PM
colt_saa
Congrstulstions on the New Python
Which barrel length did you get?
I want to pick up a 3" to add to my Pythons
As to the ammunition . . . . You can always double check the cartridge in a different revolver, yours or a shooting buddy.
If they go off, speak to the gunsmith about the issue
I have been shooting ammo cans full of decades old Federal 38 Match Wadcutter with no duds even in my lightened actions.
Slight thread drift sorry, but just as an FYI on the 3” ones, over on the Colt forum they described several instances of the barrel at the muzzle end not being concentric. They had pics and people still didn’t believe they were out there like that. Well I saw and handled one literally three days ago (mainly just to check this for myself) in a LGS and I was pretty surprised that the bore was indeed pretty noticeably off from being concentric.
Not trying to start drama or incur the hate from the internet commandos stating that it’s all a rumor and blah blah blah. I, myself, appreciate these sorts of PSA’s as it has helped me avoid some unfortunate circumstances, and being how it’s a $1500+ gun, would want to know.
July 10, 2023, 12:22 AM
hjs157
I find the QR code on the frame of the new Python cosmetically distracting. This would bother the shit out of me on a $1500 revolver. If the issue is limited to a particular run of 3" barrels, perhaps the problem has been identified and corrected.
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July 10, 2023, 05:13 AM
92fstech
But do they shoot straight? I get that they shouldn't look like that, especially on a $1500 gun, but if they sold them off at a more reasonable price, say $800 or so, I might be inclined to pick one up. I don't spend a lot of time looking at that end of the gun, anyway.
July 10, 2023, 06:37 AM
huskerlrrp
Sounds like your mainspring is a touch too light. I have a buddy who has had the original and a new Python. He had occasional light strikes with Winchester primers so run Federal primers for 100% reliability. I do the same in my USPSA revolver and have a slightly longer firing pin. If you want to run any ammo out there, you might contact your gunsmith about a little heavier main spring. There could also be some friction in the action affecting it...hard telling.
July 10, 2023, 07:48 AM
hjs157
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech: But do they shoot straight? I get that they shouldn't look like that, especially on a $1500 gun, but if they sold them off at a more reasonable price, say $800 or so, I might be inclined to pick one up. I don't spend a lot of time looking at that end of the gun, anyway.
Thank you for reinforcing my point. A $1500 revolver shouldn't look like that. What do you call an $800 Python? A GP100.
July 10, 2023, 10:07 AM
photohause
Tru that dud in another revolver if possible.
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July 11, 2023, 01:49 AM
arcwelder
It's not the SR-71. They should be able to do it today.
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July 13, 2023, 03:53 PM
Azone
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Originally posted by hjs157: I find the QR code on the frame of the new Python cosmetically distracting. This would bother the shit out of me on a $1500 revolver. If the issue is limited to a particular run of 3" barrels, perhaps the problem has been identified and corrected.
Wow - thanks for posting I am in the market and was heading out in the next day or two, will definatly be on the look out.
July 13, 2023, 06:30 PM
parabellum
Why the request for thread closure?
July 13, 2023, 08:24 PM
Marlin Fan
I’m finished with the tread. My gunsmith said it was end shake and a light main spring. Plus, there’s no charge. I thought it was the right thing to do. Please keep it open if you think there’s a benefit.
July 14, 2023, 01:32 AM
mikey357
quote:
Originally posted by Marlin Fan: I’m finished with the tread. My gunsmith said it was end shake and a light main spring. Plus, there’s no charge. I thought it was the right thing to do. Please keep it open if you think there’s a benefit.
End-shake in a new-production Python? I'm curious--Has it been shot and/or dry-fired a bunch? Reason I ask, I've had one particular K-Frame S&W Revo since 1974 & managed to send it back to Springfield with excess End-shake, but that was only after c. 13.5 K rounds fired and an UNTOLD amount of dry-fire--Took about six years IIRC, and that Model 19 if from the "Bad Old Days" of Bangor Punta...
July 14, 2023, 01:35 AM
mikey357
quote:
Originally posted by mikey357:
quote:
Originally posted by Marlin Fan: I’m finished with the tread. My gunsmith said it was end shake and a light main spring. Plus, there’s no charge. I thought it was the right thing to do. Please keep it open if you think there’s a benefit.
End-shake in a new-production Python? I'm curious--Has it been shot and/or dry-fired a bunch? Reason I ask, I've had one particular K-Frame S&W Revo since 1974 & managed to send it back to Springfield with excess End-shake, but that was only after c. 13.5 K rounds fired and an UNTOLD amount of dry-fire--Took about six years to get to that point IIRC, and that Model 19 is from the "Bad Old Days" of Bangor Punta...
July 14, 2023, 03:28 AM
Marlin Fan
The end shake was minor.
July 14, 2023, 05:53 AM
hjs157
quote:
Originally posted by Marlin Fan: The end shake was minor.
Yet your gunsmith specifically noted the end shake contributed to the light strikes. Did he correct the end shake, install a heavier mainspring or both? Thanks.
