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LOL; sorry, I see that you did buy it! Excellent! Regards From Sunny Tucson, SigFan NRA Life - IDPA - USCCA - GOA - JPFO - ACLDN - SAF - AZCDL - ASA "Faith isn't believing that God can; it's knowing that He will." (From a sign on a church in Nicholasville, Kentucky) | |||
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I think the Sig P230 and P232 is one of the best looking pistols made... probably is one of the main reasons I don't care for Glocks.... the 230 is all curves the way a handgun should be made. Be real careful when breaking the gun down, there is a little spring on the side of the ejector that can go flying off into no where and they are very hard to find or replace. My Native American Name: "Runs with Scissors" | |||
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Thanks again gentlemen. 60 yards is not a type error, when testing a new pistol, I have a 4 x 8 sheet of 3/8th steel behind some various size gongs. I paint the plate of steel with primer and then shoot at the gongs to see where it shoots. If I can't get a decent group at 60 yards I get rid of the pistol. Some I have to work on, some just plain shoot well. This 230 shot very well and is a keeper. I figure that if they shoot well at 50 yards and over they will be OK at 10 feet. My main targets are 88 yards, about every Saturday my attorney and I have a shooting contest at that range, weather permitting. Mostly we shoot 22 rim fire, his Victory against my Mod 41. You would be surprised at how well some pistols can do at longer ranges. | |||
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Interesting – there aren’t many shoulder holster fans on this forum, but I like ‘em while wearing a jacket, and especially while driving. Very accessible, and the pistol comes out pointed at a potential car jacker (if you’re a righty). Also, very comfortable. Mine is an Alessi Bodyguard horizontal rig. It has the Alessi “Speedbreak” retention system, which snaps closed within the trigger guard. No thumb snap to fumble with – a sharp tug on the pistol pops it open. But Alessi offers the Speedbreak only for pistols with a safety. Serious about crackers | |||
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I agree, a pistol on your hip is a danger for you or others. The shoulder holster is very handy and it is easy to protect the firearm. As a cop I got into a bar fight and while I was taking a base ball bat away from one man another grabbed my S&W on my hip from behind. He pulled so hard and swung my around by that revolver that he crushed one testicle as my Sam Brown Belt was tied to my pants belt. Had my new Safari Land holster not retained the revolver he would have been able to open up on the entire place, including me. I worried about that for a long time, then decided that having a revolver on my hip made it impossible to protect when you were involved in a brawl. A fellow officer was shot with his own revolver when a prisoner took his revolver out of his holster and shot him. I decided to prevent anyone from using my own revolver against me or anyone else ever again. I purchased a mod 39, made my own shoulder holster and carried that under my jacket or shirt for me. I broke the firing pin off of my revolver, pulled the bullets and emptied the powder and killed the primers then reset the bullets. Never again would I have to worry about some idiot taking my revolver and using it on me or someone else. If they wanted it, they could take it and I would still have the option of beating the crap out of him with my night stick or pulling my Mod. 39. Not only that, lethal force would not be necessary to neutralize my opponent's danger. One worry gone and no one knew about the Mod 39. My partner just died few years ago, at the end he informed me that he had the same sentiment. I never knew but he always carried a ppk 389 in a pocket for the same reason. We were together for years and neither of us knew about the other's decision. Had the chief found out we would have been fired instantly. | |||
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I had a blued 232 and it was a beautiful, sexy looking pistol. I had to sell it though, I found the recoil obnoxious, and the slide bite made it unbearable to shoot. Hopefully your hand size negates the slide bite, and you do not mind the recoil. ____________________________ NRA Life Member, Annual Member GOA, MGO Annual Member | |||
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My first experience with a P230 was as a deputy sheriff years ago. It was my mom’s and she no longer carried concealed, since my dad carried and they typically were together. In order to carry it as my BUG, I had to first qualify with it. It was a blued, W. Germany-marked model with thin plastic grips. At the county range, I was issued .380 along with .45 acp ammo for my primary carry (G21) weapon. From the first round, the slide gave me a nasty cut. Not wanting to wuss out in the middle of my qualification, I finished, with each subsequent shot sending the slide across my thumb knuckle. I soon found the remedy to be thicker Hogue grips. I’ve heard literally countless others have a similar experience. Eventually, I returned the Sig to mom and my sister’s husband has it, last I heard. Today, I have a bi-tone P232SL that came with the fat grip. I carry it rarely and, while it’s truly a beautiful, well-designed pistol, I would place it near the top of my “future sales” list. It’s my only .380. My daily carry is a USP-Compact in .45 acp (with second magazine). But, really I have lots of choices. Former US Army, Sgt., 82nd Abn. Div. Paratrooper, Infantryman, (81mm Mortars) Certified Armorer Love God, Country, & Family | |||
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Never, again, will SIG or anyone else produce such a compact and well-made DA .380. That's why I have all I can afford - admittedly only three at this point. The new US/German PPK/S's are getting good reviews but appear to be in the unobtainium category at this point. I think HK made a .380 version of the P7 - P7K3, I think. I spent 16 jahren in the Fatherland and never saw one. That said, the little SA 911 has equally good metalwork and finish - but I'm not fond of the cocked-and-locked proposition. | |||
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for me, when it comes to 380's its the 230 or the Beretta Cheetah(I really like the 86)for me. I wish they'd kept the slide serrations the same on the 232. | |||
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What Bill-in-Texas said, full size wrap-around Hogue grips with finger groves. No slide bite on any 230 or 232 that I shoot, ever. | |||
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More time and 500 rounds of Winchester 380 ammo and not a jam or malfunction. One magazine does not lock the slide back on the last shot, but that is no big deal for me. She rides well in my shoulder holster and is still very accurate. The larger grips with finger groves are on it and I cannot compare to any other grips, but I do love these. The quality both inside and out is outstanding in my opinion. | |||
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I have 2 each of the 230 and 232. I have never had slide bite. I just rotated my 232 stainless to my hip. The weather is getting warmer here in Florida. The price you paid for the condition and the number of mags is a great deal. Now you need to find more mags and parts kits. Good luck. | |||
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+1 on the West German P230SL. Got mine from a retired LEO (KE-1994?) I have Hogue G10) checkered grips. Prolly the prettiest pistol in the Sig Fleet. Best Point and shoot pistol I have shot. | |||
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I have a 230 and it is larger than some 9s, but it eats +P .380s with no problems and only noticeable recoil, much less than my PPK/S. I pack it in a DeSantis Mini OWB and with an extra mag I feel well armed, particularly because even with slightly less than optimal sights it is dead on mechanically accurate out to 40 meters. Weight is o a par with my old steel snub 38s with more ammo. The Islamic terrorist express: Go directly to Allah, do not pass hell. | |||
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I think the 230 is the best .380 ever made. Sure, it's a copy of the PPK, but it's the better gun all day long. | |||
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My 230 never bit me as compared to the Walther ppk I bought at the same time. But the p230 came with the Hogue thick rubber finger groove grips. I had to put a sleeve on the Walther just to get a better feel and it would still scrap the top of my hand. My Native American Name: "Runs with Scissors" | |||
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