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Originally posted by sigspecops:
...hate on...

Let's please refrain from using this ghetto phrase. Nothing personal. I've asked several members to avoid this stuff. I'm tired of the English language being butchered.

Also, stuff such as "be like". Let's avoid this stuff, please.

Having said that- yeah, the Nano is a fine pistol. I am no fan of DA-only triggers but I can manage the Nano trigger just fine. I do recommend the addition of grip texturing. My recommendation is the TalonGrip, as shown in the video below. My choice is the granulate texturing, not the rubber, although either is better than no added texturing.

The slide is shorter than that of the Glock G43, and this, combined with the DA trigger which includes a safety blade makes the Nano a candidate for holsterless pocket carry. You can see how it compares to the S&W J frame.

The Nano would be a good choice for ankle carry as well.

In this video from a decade ago, hickok45 reported 100% reliability in his testing of the pistol, and you can see how easily managed is the DA trigger.

I know a friend who was a spec ops in his past life and he loved his Beretta Nano when he had one for many years, it was years ago though but he thought it was a good little gun.

Course that's just personal anecdotal evidence but still he shot many hundreds of rounds through it.

He got me with that video intro. I was thinking to myself that’s a 50. When he said 556 I was thinking no way! That dang thing is small.

It’s still a tiny pistol. I like sub compacts so I am really looking forward to getting my hands on this Beretta.

Those stainless 92X models are tempting as well. Especially with a $300 rebate. I might be having to scoop up one of those in the near future. I doubt many of you guys remember my collection of steel framed Sig Sauer pistols. A stainless steel Beretta seems like it would be a very pleasant shooter that is also incredibly easy on the eyes.

with taxes and shipping after rebate, it's at $218. Not bad. Does it come with one or two mags? Looks to be about the same size as my Glock 42.

I think one mag but I’ll let you know definitively on Monday or Tuesday.

So, this is the second iteration of this pistol, hence the "A1". It does sound like shooters complained about the trigger, and though this is the "improved" trigger, I can see why people don't like it. Long release, long reset. The trigger on the first version of this pistol must really blow.

So no riding the reset like on a Glock but a long deliberate pull which I suppose is good for a very compact carry pistol.

I've carried a Nano for years as my daily CCW gun. Flawless and a great shooter.

The APX is basically the Nano cut/shaped differently. I actually had an original Nano slide and trigger group on an APX frame I purchased separately from Beretta because the APX frame feels more comfortable to hold. Works perfectly. Never had a problem with the original config or the Frankenstein configuration. My daughter now owns it, that's how reliable it was, that I'd let my daughter have it.

Here's my original post about the Nano on the APX frame: Frankenstein Nano

I bought a Nano on clearance from Rural King for $250. It came with 2 mags and has been a good gun. Haven't shot it alot.Best to break it in with hotter ammo like all pistols.

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Originally posted by Xer0:
The APX is basically the Nano cut/shaped differently.

The triggers are different. I've not handled the APX but I own a Nano and it's a straight DA-only pull. Based upon the video I posted in this thread, the trigger on the APX is Glock-like, although a poor example of a Glock trigger.

Is there something I'm missing here? The APX is not a DA-only pull, correct?

The APX is striker-fired with a modular insert (normal ones are...not sure the limitations of the Carry model).

I am amused and puzzled that I can't get an answer about the APX trigger.

Yes, the APX uses a modular chassis just like the Nano, as illustrated in the exploded view I posted on this page. Yes, the APX A1 Carry uses Nano the same magazine body and follower of the Nano.

But, why can't I get an answer on the trigger? Xer0 says the Nano and the APX Carry are basically the same pistol, but the trigger action is a significant part of what defines a pistol, and if you take a look at the video I posted, it seems the triggers on these two pistols are completely different.

Is this a clubhouse secret? Can I try guessing the password?

I’ve compared the triggers on the new APX carry and my Nano. Granted, it was only dry firing at the store but it was a lighter. It still had the long pull and reset. However, it was enough of an improvement over the Nano, that I bought and installed the Galloway Precision trigger kit on my Nano.

https://gallowayprecision.com/...kit-for-beretta-nano

Galloway claims the reduction is about 1.5lbs. Not a lot but noticeable. With the 8 round magazines it is still quite concealable and very comfortable to carry with my R. Grizzle Leather holster.

I think the Nano/APX Carry are very underrated.

Edited to add: The literature I just saw said the Nano’s original trigger weight is 7-8 lbs so with Galloway’s kit, you are down to 5.5-6.5 lbs. Galloway says it also works on the APX Carry. The literature says the APX Carry’s weight is 6.5lbs. So that would drop to about 5 lbs. With the longer pull, that it is an interesting option to consider.

Bought one last year when they were about $100 more, even with a rebate.

It doesn't do anything better than any other subcompact 9mm pistol out there. The fact that it's a single stack 9mm larger in size than a P365 also doesn't do it any favors. The only real thing going for it is the fact that Beretta is almost giving these away for free.

The trigger is a long/heavy "don't shoot yourself/someone else on accident" affair designed for "casual" concealed carriers and people who don't shoot guns all that often and thus don't have the best gun handling abilities. It's perfectly serviceable. But a competition/target trigger it is not. It's most certainly not a "good" trigger, even for a long DA-like trigger. I've shot stock DA revolvers with better triggers.

For a single stack 9mm the grip is unusually long front to back, which I actually like but some people will likely find this to be awkward, expecting a miniature grip to go along with the subcompact size.

It would make a good tool box/truck gun, backup gun, or something to stash to keep close at hand for maybe a store clerk, etc. Something low maintenance that won't make you too sad if it gets beat up or corroded from neglect, or worst case, lost/stolen.

Beretta always seems like they're late to the party when it comes to handguns. The original APX Carry was an update of the Nano, and it was in some ways. The current A1 is an update of the APX, and it is, but...why would Beretta not go ahead and increase the capacity? That's surely not gonna decrease their sales, a lot of people expect it now. And most of all, why not give it the trigger from the full size APX? I doubt anyone would complain about the removal of that long trigger pull.
They could of had a real contender, but now they have a pistol that sells mostly, because it's cheap.

Went to PSA today to mull it over again and the price went up to $317.

Sorry Para, aint been here for a few days. Just saw your questions on the APX trigger vs Nano's.

I can't say the current model APX is the same as the old Nano. The original APX Carry that I used the frame from had the weird slide "scallops" but basically everything was the same internally as the Nano including the heavy DA only trigger pull (at least it was that way with the APX I tried in the store back then), but this was back in 2019. The APX Carry in the video you posted has a different looking slide with regular serrations than the original one with scallops, so Beretta might have changed the trigger internals too since everyone originally hated the APX Carry as much as they hated the Nano since it was the same gun essentially and the complaints were the same about the heavy DA trigger and long reset except worse for a pocket conceal gun because the slide was bulkier and frame was little longer.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
Went to PSA today to mull it over again and the price went up to $317.

I wonder if they sold out of that particular type. The FDE and green are $269 but the black ones that were $219, must have went quick. The multiple guns and prices for the same gun is screwy.

Well I get what you guys were saying about the trigger. A Glock trigger it is NOT.

I love the size and feel of the APX. I scooped up two of them because two is one and one is none. They both came with the magazine that has the bottom grip extension. Before handling the pistol I would have probably chosen the small/compact base plate but now having handled the extended version I think it’s just fine.

The pistol is small but does not feel like it will be hard at all to shoot due to its small size. I really wish the trigger were closer to the feel of a Glock. I have no issues with the ergos or actual feel/action of pulling the trigger but oh man does it seem to take forever for the trigger to break.

I’ll need to get some range time in soon to know for sure but it seems like a decent little carry pistol.

Given my preference for the Glock trigger and Glock making single stack offerings (I really haven’t been following the sub compact gun market closely since 2013) I’ll probably end up with something else as my carry pistol but for now this will be easier to carry than my 357Sig P2000SK and have a slightly better trigger than the DA/SA on the HK.