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When the P320 came out, I was not a fan. When the whole premature discharge saga unfolded, I actively detested the P320. For the last several years I’ve basically just felt like the P320 didn’t do anything better than a Glock and if you wanted a striker fired gun, just buy a Glock.

Fast forward to Friday when I shot a P320 for the first time for qualification with my new agency. I actually really liked it. I do still prefer the 1911 type grip angle to Glock, but that only really comes into play at greater distances for me so that wasn’t a huge deal. I think the stock trigger on the SIG was definitely better than a stock Glock trigger. I also felt like the SIG with light attached handled muzzle flip a bit better than the Glock with light attached. I still think the plastic on the Glock is much better than the SIG, and feel like the Glock has slightly higher quality materials.

So as for where I was somewhat wrong, I always felt like I could shoot any issued gun well enough, regardless of how I personally felt about it and that’s still true. But when I got hired by this agency I thought I’d have no desire to buy a personal P320 for fun, and I don’t think that’s the case anymore. I think the availability of quality products from Grayguns and Wilson for example will allow me to get and be happy about tool steel fire control parts instead of MIM, and a higher quality plastic as well. I think I may actually end up buying a P320 to have some fun with, and that is very much a surprise to me.




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I wasn't sure about it either. The Glocks without the finger grooves were good enough, even the fake (Salient) ones.

I happened upon the X-Five version at a reasonable price and couldn't be happier.





 
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I loved my P320 that I built up a little at a time. For me, the AXG frame transforms the gun and gives it the classic Sig feel. I'm just done with striker guns. I'd rather use an AR for home defense and I prefer hammer guns for the fun stuff.
 
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I like the 320. I have a compact with the small grip module. It’s the only double stack pistol that I can reach the mag release on without shifting my grip. Sigs modular design switched me from Glock to Sig. I shoot the 320 better than a 19.
 
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I'm not personally a huge fan of striker-fired guns in general, but we've been using the P320 since 2017, and I can't think of a better choice for a duty gun at this point in time. The combination of price, quality, reliability, and modularity can't be beat.

We've not had any serious problems with any of those guns in the 7 years we've been using them. Our first batch were pre-upgrade, and Sig replaced them with no drama. We're a pretty small agency so it's not a huge sample size, but both of the "big" agencies in our county went to them less than a year after we did, and they haven't had any major problems either. Even the guys who lateraled over from Glock agencies haven't found anything to complain about, and we've actually had a couple of smaller agencies dump their Glocks to go to the 320. It's a solid platform.
 
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When the P320 came out, I was not a fan. When the whole premature discharge saga unfolded, I actively detested the P320. For the last several years I’ve basically just felt like the P320 didn’t do anything better than a Glock and if you wanted a striker fired gun, just buy a Glock.


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I think the stock trigger on the SIG was definitely better than a stock Glock trigger.

Glock sets the bar pretty low when it comes to their triggers. It's damn hard to find any striker made by a reputable brand that has a trigger as meh as a Glock's.


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While I'm not a fan of Sig using their customers to beta test their pistols, I carry current production P365 variants; I have a P320 M17 with a Romeo X that is my zombie apocalypse sidearm; I have a P320C with a Streetlight TLR7 that is my nightstand gun; I have my eye on the M17X/M18X configurations and am waiting for the exchange kit to be available since I'd rather have the RomeoM17 optic on my apocalypse gun.

They are pleasant shooters and silly accurate if they shooter does their job. I shoot them better than my HK pistols (and I LOVE HK) and definitely better than Glocks. The P365 is an engineering marvel. Gotta give it to Sig not to mention the classic P series is amazing.

Still, I am looking forward to the VP9CC. We may see it in the states by next year if HK doesn't hate us too much.


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I got a P320c in a trade. I got a WC frame and a couple holsters. I really like it. The trigger on it is amazing for a mass produced striker gun.
 
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check proven outfitters for the le/mil pricing on the 320s



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I've been using SIG pistols professionally and personally since the mid 1980's and I am hard pressed to put down my P226's, P228 and P229's the P320 is growing on me.

It started with shooting a friend's P320X5 and it has gone from there. I bought the X5, then the P320X, then the AXG Scorpion, next was the X-Ten and finally the AXG full-size.

I really like the AXG frames and the AXG Scorpion reminds me of my old P229 and is carried often. I used it last month in a pistol/carbine class and it was flawless.

I can say that Proven Outfitters does a great job; I appreciate the LE/MIL pricing.

I guess an old dog can learn a new trick; but if I was going in harm's way tomorrow, I would be holstering a P226.

Obviously, YMMV.

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I am hopeful that I can sell all other pistols but the P320 variants that I own. So far it has been challenging to find buyers.

Like you, I actively resisted adopting the P320 and sold an early one even after it was upgraded.


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The 320 hits the sweet spot for me between the 365XL and the 226 in just about all aspects.



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I’m by no means a total covert or anything, but I think I will likely add a 320 to my personal collection. It will likely have the alloy frame, whether purchased that way or added on, or possibly a Wilson frame as I really don’t care much for the look or materials of the factory plastic. I think this could be a very fun pistol to shoot, and with a few personalizations would give me the pride of ownership needed to purchase one from out of my own pocket. They really are a very shootable pistol.




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The ones I’ve dry fired and shot have had excellent triggers. One of them was a Legion X5 XTAC RomeoXJuliet SAS Emperor Fastback Scorpion SAS II whatever the hell edition with the flat trigger. Fast shooting gun, easy to score hits with. If I wasn’t balls deep in Glock mags and holsters, I’d consider a switch. I think they’ve got the platform pretty well figured out by now.


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I like shooting 'em even if it's got the wrong, very un-Glock grip angle. Wink

There has been enough said and even visually shown about unintended discharges that I would never be convinced that it's safe to carry without a manual safety. SIG in my op/ed shoulda used a physical inertia block at the trigger bow just like every other big wig striker gun maker on the planet. But noooooo, they couldn't suck up their corporate pride and just cop to doing it "the Glock Way". A German (owned) enterprise copying an Austrian? Oh the shame of it all. What would Porsche think? Oh, wait...

Its relative thickness also makes it a no bueno as a carry weapon for this specific civilian, particularly not when the svelte P365 Macro exists as a VERY viable and virtually just as shootable alternative. The lack of girth always matters, particularly for someone with a smaller 5'-8" frame size like me. But as a recreational gun, it's a truly good shooter fer sure, even though fellow German Walther puts out arguably more preferable shooters in its PPQ/PDP family. And those other fellow Germans HK and their VP9 and the superb ergonomics that it brings to the table along with its also darn good trigger. And the Turks in the form of Canik does just as satisfying if not more so job of the same as well. But the SIG is pretty fun at being an adult LEGO set and has that over those others. So there.


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I really like my M18 with the manual safety.

The trigger is soft, but with the safety I like it. It's the only one that got me to consider something other than a P250 for home defense.


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I really like my M18 with the manual safety.

The trigger is soft, but with the safety I like it. It's the only one that got me to consider something other than a P250 for home defense.


I suggest changing the Trigger Reset Spring to the Armory Craft replacement. It replaced the mushy feel with a smoother feel and snappier reset.



"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
 
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I’ve got the AXG Carry two tone. It’s a really nice pistol.
 
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So the first time I shot a P320 it was a Fullsize 9mm I had bought on a whim because it was used and on clearance. Took it to the range with a Glock 17 and 19 that I've owned for going on 15 years.

I shot the P320 better, right out of the gate. Groups were tighter and all but dead on drift wise.



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