-------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken
I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18
May 27, 2025, 03:20 PM
Sigforall
quote:
Originally posted by newtoSig765: ^^^^^ Note that the article is ten years old.
I believe it has everything that has been mentioned so far?
"At least they weren't walking like an Egyptian."
May 27, 2025, 03:32 PM
PASig
My go-to for a while now is Hornady Critical Defense
May 27, 2025, 03:41 PM
newtoSig765
Yes, but from memory, I believe that at least Federal, and maybe others, have redesigned their bullets since then.
When I took a dive into 147gr loads on YouTube a couple months ago it was mostly older vids.
-------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken
I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18
May 27, 2025, 03:45 PM
newtoSig765
One-day old trashing of Speer's new 147gr Border Patrol load:
-------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken
I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18
May 27, 2025, 11:21 PM
cas
I shot some Speer 147gr G2 the other day and that's some soft shooting stuff. Really surprised me. If soft shooting's what you're after, I'd try a little of that.
The two guns I carry the most are a Hellcat micro and a Staccato CS, they both LOVE Cor-Bon 115gr DPX (Barnes expanding mono bullet). They're not soft shooting.
(Accuracy wise the Staccato has been a huge disappointment to me, but the DPX load shoots great. To date it's the only one that does. I say disappointing because the Hellcat, with it small size and much cruder trigger, is a good deal more accurate with any and all loads I've tried. And that's pretty sad for what they cost.)
May 27, 2025, 11:24 PM
parabellum
I wouldn't mind having a box of that for my 9mm ammunition collection, but based upon the performance in that video, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole for consideration of use.
For law enforcement use, it will probably give great penetration for cross-torso shots or shooting through automobile glass, but in terms of wound cavity creation, it looks like a dud.
Perhaps I'm missing something here. Perhaps the clear gel used in that test does not yield results equivalent to that seen in Fackler-type 10% gelatin, but I think the issue is something else. I can't recall hearing anything good about the G2 projectile or its factory loading.
May 28, 2025, 12:01 AM
newtoSig765
I thought the same about the gelatin tests. Didn't he have more than 30" that the rounds passed through, and with no expansion or deviation of flight path? I wouldn't think a FMJ could make it that far, let alone a HP, no matter how poorly it performed.
All-in-all, though, it seems to be a bad round. I haven't looked at G2 rounds before, so didn't know about their similarly weak reputation.
If Federal brings back the 147gr +P, I'm in, but until then I'm sticking with the 124gr +P.
-------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken
I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18