I don't even remember when I got these. I believe they were given to me. I know very little about revolvers, especially anything made before 1970. Can you tell me the specific model, approx date of mfg, possibly rare or common?
First is a 22lr S&W I found. I think it's an early K22?
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July 10, 2020, 04:40 PM
agony
Second is this old Colt. This message has been edited. Last edited by: agony, July 10, 2020 08:13 PM
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July 10, 2020, 04:43 PM
agony
Third is this gun. Pretty sure it's a model 1917 S&W Army as it says on the butt. Was this gun originally blued? It looks painted.
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July 10, 2020, 05:04 PM
BigSwede
Can't help you but I really enjoyed your pics, nice pistolas
July 10, 2020, 05:12 PM
bald1
agony,
I honestly don't know what it is but with Firefox 78.0.2 running under Windows 10, this is what I see. If i click "view image" it takes me to fototime where I can see your picture. But damn, for the number of pictures you need us to look at that's a lot of work.
Wish I knew why they don't show plainly in your posts....
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July 10, 2020, 05:53 PM
soflaac
I couldn't see them either, run Firefox too, along with a pretty strong ad-blocker.
They come up using Microsoft Edge browser. Nice revos. The fellas at S&W forum could i.d. them in a minute if nobody here happens along.
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July 10, 2020, 06:05 PM
RHINOWSO
Pictures show up just fine, Mac user here.
July 10, 2020, 06:11 PM
92fstech
Pictures show up fine on my android phone. Wish I knew enough about the guns to offer some input, but I will say those are some sweet old revolvers!
July 10, 2020, 06:11 PM
Tgrshrk99
Pics show up fine here - safari on an iPad.
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July 10, 2020, 06:17 PM
Rustpot
Pics showed up fine here.
The S&W 1917 shows up as a 1918 build. The military models were a dull blued finish.
quote:
The year of manufacture for serial number 46179 is 1918.
April U.S. government contract Smith & Wesson 1917 revolvers had serial numbers between 1 and 175100, they should have U.S. property markings on the bottom of the barrel and U.S. army marking on the bottom of the butt. After the war S&W 1917 revolvers were sold commercially and also to the Brazilian government. Brazilian contract revolvers have the Brazilian seal stamped on the side plate
Edit: With my limited knowledge of wheelguns, I'd put the .22 at about the 40-50's, from the case hardened hammer and trigger, non-mushroom ejector, medallion grips. Much earlier would have a mushroom, later would have different grips like magnas. Maybe back to the 30's? What is marked under the crane?
July 10, 2020, 06:49 PM
M1Garandy
Your .22 appears to be a First Model K-22 Outdoorsman. Made 1931-1940 with yours being closer to the mid-1930's if I'm reading the SCSW correctly. Collectable and definitely has some value. Not super common, at least in my area. You might post some more pictures after a good wipe down, I'm trying to decide if has had a reblue.
I agree that your M1917 was painted. Not uncommon, but the paint job does not help the price. Might be OK under the paint but who knows? Buddy bought a K-Frame that had been done similarly and it was nice under the paint.
Predecessor of the Official Police; by the serial numbers your's could be an early one. (ETA: double check your photo of the serial number on the grip frame. Just noticed you have an image of wooden grips, not rubber, and what appears to be a brass trigger guard). Colt Army Special is the model.
July 10, 2020, 07:05 PM
bald1
agony,
After looking at the pictures (now seen after taking hints from those here...I disabled Privacy Badger for this site), I'm unable to be of any help.
No doubt others here will provide you with what you need.
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July 10, 2020, 08:14 PM
agony
quote:
Originally posted by rat2306: Found this about the Colt.
Predecessor of the Official Police; by the serial numbers your's could be an early one. (ETA: double check your photo of the serial number on the grip frame. Just noticed you have an image of wooden grips, not rubber, and what appears to be a brass trigger guard). Colt Army Special is the model.
Ugh, yes you're right...that serial # was from a totally different gun. I'll get a better pic later. Thanks for the info! EDIT: I did look, and there's no serial # on the bottom of the grip. Perhaps this is the #? I found it under the crane:
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July 10, 2020, 08:34 PM
agony
quote:
Originally posted by Rustpot: Pics showed up fine here.
The S&W 1917 shows up as a 1918 build. The military models were a dull blued finish.
quote:
The year of manufacture for serial number 46179 is 1918.
April U.S. government contract Smith & Wesson 1917 revolvers had serial numbers between 1 and 175100, they should have U.S. property markings on the bottom of the barrel and U.S. army marking on the bottom of the butt. After the war S&W 1917 revolvers were sold commercially and also to the Brazilian government. Brazilian contract revolvers have the Brazilian seal stamped on the side plate
Edit: With my limited knowledge of wheelguns, I'd put the .22 at about the 40-50's, from the case hardened hammer and trigger, non-mushroom ejector, medallion grips. Much earlier would have a mushroom, later would have different grips like magnas. Maybe back to the 30's? What is marked under the crane?
THanks for the link, very helpful. The barrel on the 1917 is indeed marked US Property:
Under the crane of the 22 I found this:
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July 10, 2020, 08:35 PM
agony
And this is under the crane of the Colt 32-20:
And found this under the crane of the SW 1917:
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July 10, 2020, 08:44 PM
agony
quote:
Originally posted by M1Garandy: Your .22 appears to be a First Model K-22 Outdoorsman. Made 1931-1940 with yours being closer to the mid-1930's if I'm reading the SCSW correctly. Collectable and definitely has some value. Not super common, at least in my area. You might post some more pictures after a good wipe down, I'm trying to decide if has had a reblue.
I agree that your M1917 was painted. Not uncommon, but the paint job does not help the price. Might be OK under the paint but who knows? Buddy bought a K-Frame that had been done similarly and it was nice under the paint.
Thanks for the info!
"You have the right not to be killed..." The Clash, "Know Your Rights"
July 10, 2020, 08:47 PM
P-220
I am of no help here. However, I want to thank you for posting the pics. For me, those represent another time, a time when pride was taken in the building of firearms.
Niech Zyje P-220
Steve
July 10, 2020, 08:54 PM
rat2306
That would be the serial number for the Colt. According to this site, I'd say it was made in 1913. You can click onto the models for data.
The .22, M1Grandy got it right. Outdoorsman, 5 screw, one liner, first version. Your crane numbers are assembly numbers. Check your stocks for matching S/N. The first versions are collectible.
The second versions are the most rare , only made in 1940-42. They had high 600,000 s/n.
The third version (1946) got a barrel rib and s/n's started with the letter "K". In 1948 "made in usa" (one liner) changed to four line script.
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