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I'm starting my own Webley topic for a new revolver I picked up yesterday. It was sold as a Webley MK VI revolver in .455, but shaved for full moon clips. Appears to have been refinished which removed the maker's marks on the left side of the frame. What I find most unusual is that it only has a 5 digit serial number. Does anyone know what I have? Right Side by Dave Steier, on Flickr Left Side by Dave Steier, on Flickr Right frame marking detail by Dave Steier, on Flickr Top Strap and Cylinder Markings Left side crane cylinder by Dave Steier, on Flickr Left Frame showing missing makers markings Left Frame worn off markings by Dave Steier, on Flickr 5 Digit Serial Crane SN by Dave Steier, on Flickr Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | ||
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Can't help with any info on the gun, but I just want to say that is pretty awesome. Thanks for sharing the pictures...how does it shoot? | |||
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It shoots great! I just put about 24 rounds through it. Want to load more! Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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My 1917 (IIRC lol) gun has a 6 digit serial number. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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Looks like a standard Mark VI to me. Does it also have a serial number on the bottom of the frame near the joint? This reminds me I need to load up some 45AR to shoot mine. | |||
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Yeah @bigwagon, but it's just a 5 digit number, All the rest of them I've seen are 6 digit. Crane SN by Dave Steier, on Flickr Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Hop head |
according to this site https://classicfirearms.be/web...ice%20revolvers.html there was some overlap with the Mk III's serial number https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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From that website: Lowest known serial number 77503 (overlap of the Mark III) and the highest serial number 130024. It is unknown how many Mark IV's were produced the British Government did not purchase any more after 1904 and the commercial sales had there serial numbers mixed with sales of the W.S Model. Mine is still below that number at 147XX. Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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From the same site. Could be one of these: Mark VI Enfield The Enfield Mark VI was produced at the Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield from 1921 until 1926. Visually they are identical except for the finish and are stamped Enfield above MK (crown) VI beneath was stamped the year of production. The grips were also 0.25" slimmer. It is unknown exactly how many Enfield Mark VI's were made but it is thought to be between 32,000 and 40,000. I would be grateful to anyone who has one of these revolvers to let me have the serial number to help confirm this. 20,000 with no prefix 10,000 with an A prefix up to 10,000 with a B prefix Mostly Enfield Mark VI revolvers are found with very little usage or wear. Here's another example. Check the serial number format: https://www.legacy-collectible...ld-mark-vi-1922.html | |||
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Yes, it COULD be an Enfield. Too bad someone obliterated the maker's mark on the left side of the frame. It certainly could fall into that range of 20,000 guns without a prefix. Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Raptorman |
Here's you an unusual Webley. MKIII Pocket with the Lyon & Lyon rollmarks. One of four made. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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If you look at the example I linked, the Enfields were marked on the righthand side on the sideplate. If there's no indication of a mark there, it's also possible the sideplate was replaced. | |||
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That's way cool Marzy! I like the video too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV9Q84cQ7AE Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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No disernable markings on the right side either. Like this fine example. May have been replaced or polished out when refinished. Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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so is the serial on the frame just in front of the trigger guard? , you posted the pic of the serial on the barrel, can you get us better pics of the pistol, close ups of the marks, good clear overall and a close up of where the marks were removed? https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Serial numbers are on the frame in front of the trigger guard, on the barrel, and on the cylinder. Areas where Enfield marks are (right side behind cylinder) and Webley (Left side above trigger) are polished/worn completely away. I'll try to get better photos. Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Lyman, Check these out. Right Close by Dave Steier, on Flickr Left Frame by Dave Steier, on Flickr Left Frame worn off markings by Dave Steier, on Flickr Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Raptorman |
The little arrows (raven feet) are acceptance markings. This gun was never retired. The arrow would be reversed into a star. Usually Webley had a flying bullet as the maker's mark. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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So this was a military and not a civilian gun? Where would the "flying bullet" mark appear? Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Raptorman |
I've seen them on either frame side to the side of the barrel topstrap. Depending on the time of manufacture. Mine is above the trigger guard. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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