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How about some Inox Beretta love?
February 07, 2023, 06:44 PM
92fstechHow about some Inox Beretta love?
Dude, not cool! I know where one of these is right now...stainless, straight dustcover, original stainless controls. I passed on it the other day because frankly the action was not anywhere near as nice as my Bruniton gun...but those all stainless Inox's are soooooo sexy, and I've always kinda wanted one. I don't need it, I wouldn't carry it, and I managed to overcome my gut desire in the shop and made the correct and practical decision not to buy it...but when you post pics like that it makes me want to run back over there and buy it!!!
February 07, 2023, 06:51 PM
GenorogersMan Smudge.....you are so lucky to live in the same town with Ernest, he is the Beretta man. I have a dozen pistols that have been through his shop but have only talked on the phone with him and Aimee. Great people, great business too.
February 07, 2023, 07:15 PM
P220 Smudge92fstech, you should buy that Inox.
Here on Sigforum, we enable… errr…
encourage each other.
Honestly, I hear you, man. I wanted it bad, bought it, then promptly packed it away and forgot about it. The trigger being total garbage was part of it, but I have zero practical use for this gun. I do like it, though. Gonna fiddle around with swapping the trigger bar later and see if I can get it where I want it. Otherwise, I might just go ahead and try to grab a CZ Shadow 2, TS2, or TSO like I was going to do originally.
Geno, if I can’t get this thing right, I might shoot them an email and see if I can bring it by. They don’t have a store front, but I quite literally buy groceries next door to him there, so if it’s a convenience factor, maybe he’d be willing to take a look at it.
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February 07, 2023, 07:29 PM
GenorogersCall and ask for Aimee, she'll most likely be there. Tell her she's a rock star from the video she does and put it on her that you need help. You might be surprised.
February 08, 2023, 12:48 AM
P220 SmudgeWell, I got the trigger bar swapped out and it's a lot better, but there's definitely something wrong with this gun.
- Always seemed unnecessarily hard to rack the slide randomly, like it was locked in place with maybe a fraction of a millimeter of play before force overcomes it and it slide free.
- When the slide is off the gun and the hammer is all the way forward, the trigger hangs dead and doesn't engage anything.
- The trigger was always insanely heavy. At least fifteen pounds, and I wouldn't be shocked if it were twenty.
- With the Langdon parts installed, the DA pull is incredibly inconsistent, and often at full trigger press all the way to the wall, the hammer just hangs until it drops at random.
The SA pull is amazing, but the DA pull behaving like it does is nothing I've ever encountered with a handgun. Given the unpredictable nature of it, I'm considering it lockout tagged until I can either pull it completely apart and see if there's a glaringly obvious mistake in how the previous owner assembled it, or get it to a smith, preferably the man himself.
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Originally posted by Genorogers:
Call and ask for Aimee, she'll most likely be there. Tell her she's a rock star from the video she does and put it on her that you need help. You might be surprised.
Will do probably Thursday or Friday, depending on when I have time to pull this thing apart. Tell her Geno sent me?
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February 08, 2023, 06:34 AM
92fstechquote:
Here on Sigforum, we enable… errr… encourage each other.
I would expect nothing less
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That gun sounds like kind of a hot mess, but I imagine it can probably be saved. A full LTT TJIAB would replace the hammer and other ignition parts, which would likely resolve your problem...but a trip to the Langdon shop itself would be pretty much guaranteed to fix whatever is going on with it.
February 08, 2023, 07:07 AM
PGTquote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Well, I got the trigger bar swapped out and it's a lot better, but there's definitely something wrong with this gun.
Work the different parts separately after taking it apart. Remove the trigger bar from the frame. Does the trigger itself move freely? Does the hammer move freely? I've seen the hammer be hard to move due to spring stacking on the main spring....it should move freely. Does the firing pin block on the slide move freely up and down with the slide off the gun? Does the safety rotate freely? How about the hammmer plunger? Fit the barrel in the frame with the slide off. Oil the locking block and make sure the cam track lets it lock and unlock smoothly. With the trigger bar reinstalled, does it move freely back and forth and is there ample spring tension upwards from the trigger bar/angle spring? (this is a typical culprit of most DA hammer issues). Put the right sight grip back on....does the trigger bar still move freely? The grip panel can put undue pressure on the trigger bar....a small file to relieve the back fixes it.
Lastly...the main thing people screw up on 92's is the sear spring install because there's only one way and it's a PITA.
February 08, 2023, 09:23 AM
smschulzI only have a regular FS92 and it is a sweet on also my first handgun that I will never will sell.
The INOX is one that I really want to get and also an Elite II some time.
Thanks for the nice pics, guys.
February 10, 2023, 09:58 PM
pedropcolaThe slide issue sounds like a locking block issue. The “dead” trigger isn’t necessarily abnormal. All mine will do this to some degree with the slide off. Fiddle with it and then it will engage. So that’s not strange to me. The trigger being crazy heavy? He put something in backwards. 92’s are the easiest metal hammer gun of all time to take apart. Only one mildly challenging thing (not considering a G conversion lol) and that is putting the sear spring back in.
I say go google a guide and dump that thing down to pins and parts. Put it back. If something is amiss it will probably jump out at you. Easy. Seriously easy.
February 10, 2023, 10:06 PM
pedropcolaYup. I just pulled out one of my 92’s to make sure I wasn’t full of crap. This one happens to be one of my best. A well shot in LTT Elite. One of the first 50 made. Nice gun. If I pull off the slide I can get a “dead” trigger about half the time. Then it will “catch” and it moves the hammer. Only happens with the slide off. I can recreate this in all of them. (I didn’t check them all but I’ve noticed it over the years).
I have never had a malfunction in any of my 92’s except with my shitty reloads. Steel, aluminum, obviously brass 100%.
I once traded into a craptastic Centurion. The guy totally misrepresented the condition of his gun. I traded it with full disclosure to a guy who knew his way around a 92 which back then was not me. If I got the same gun today I would tear it down and replace anything wonky and maybe just everything to be sure. 92 parts are plentiful and cheap. That gun got assembled with something in there wrong.
February 10, 2023, 10:42 PM
P220 SmudgePGT, your Beretta collection is the stuff of envy, truly. Love that one with the Vertec slide and the gold appointments. Hey, while you're here, you posted this in another thread. Love all the frame safeties, and if you don't mind my asking, what models are these?
https://i.imgur.com/F0Fy3Ech.jpgThanks for telling me what to look for!
Pedro, I'm gonna detail strip it down to the last piece tomorrow and build it back up carefully from parts, checking PGT's list. If I can't figure it out from there, I'll be calling Langdon's shop Monday. I'm hoping it's something really simple.
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February 11, 2023, 06:15 AM
PGTquote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
PGT, your Beretta collection is the stuff of envy, truly. Love that one with the Vertec slide and the gold appointments. Hey, while you're here, you posted this in another thread. Love all the frame safeties, and if you don't mind my asking, what models are these?
Thanks for telling me what to look for!
Pedro, I'm gonna detail strip it down to the last piece tomorrow and build it back up carefully from parts, checking PGT's list. If I can't figure it out from there, I'll be calling Langdon's shop Monday. I'm hoping it's something really simple.
fixing the img tags so I can see
*92 Centennial
*92 Combat
*92 Combat
*Frankengun; 92 Steel-I upper over 92 Stock lower and e-nickeled
*Frankengun; M9A1 lower converted to frame safety with 92 Billennium slide milled and CCR did their magic on *the whole gun
*Frankengun; 92 Centurion lower converted to frame safety with 96 Centurion slide and Bar-Sto 357 SIG barrel and NP3'ed
February 11, 2023, 06:18 PM
Vero8Beretta Inox 92 compact. It's an old picture but I like it
God bless America...and no one else
February 12, 2023, 10:55 AM
PGTtechnically not Inox but rather CCR CPII, this is an OG 92G-SD that was finish challenged so had CCR work their magic. Finding grips that complimented the finish was tough...these are "khaki" next to some OEM Beretta/Hogue special edition gray ano grips
February 12, 2023, 10:55 AM
PGTquote:
Originally posted by PGT:
technically not Inox but rather CCR CPII, this is an OG 92G-SD that was finish challenged so had CCR work their magic. Finding grips that complimented the finish was tough...these are "khaki" next to some OEM Beretta/Hogue special edition gray ano grips
February 13, 2023, 12:21 PM
rat2306Was chatting with a salesguy this morning at an LGS, very young guy. He really wants an Inox M92.
I was a meanie, and mentioned I have an Inox M9A1 (just as in Vero8's photo). The old warhorses are still sought after.
February 13, 2023, 12:59 PM
P220 Smudgequote:
Originally posted by PGT:
technically not Inox but rather CCR CPII, this is an OG 92G-SD that was finish challenged so had CCR work their magic. Finding grips that complimented the finish was tough...these are "khaki" next to some OEM Beretta/Hogue special edition gray ano grips
Looks great! I still reference your picture of the different hammers with various finishes. I was comparing some of the parts on mine to it a few days ago. I definitely have a bit of a mixmaster going in terms of finishes. Dunno what it all is, but the slide release, takedown lever and magazine release are all different from each other, and they're all different from both the slide and the frame. Now there's NP3 in the mix with the trigger bar. It's a mutt, but I like it.
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Originally posted by rat2306:
I was a meanie, and mentioned I have an Inox M9A1 (just as in Vero8's photo).
You're a baaaaaad man.
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February 13, 2023, 02:05 PM
PGTYep, look at my 92 Inox Brigadier up top of this page; hard chromed parts and also stainless and also nickel, from the factory. That's why early Italian 92 Inox guns are worth so much; they're all stainless controls. Cast stainless is inherently brittle so they started swapping to hard chromed or nickeled parts over the production timeline.
