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Told cops where to go for over 29 years…
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*UPDATE*

After reading CAR’s post, I took a rag and applied a light coat of oil to the area. Didn’t bother letting it sit, just rubbed it in the area then took a dry terry cloth and went over it to remove as much oil as possible to see if it made any difference.

I didn’t want a oil film to mask the problem.

Looks like it may have just been that, looks good to go now (see before/after pic).

After I get a chance to take it to the range and check everything else out then give a cleaning I will see how it looks. May have just jumped the gun getting worried.





Original post....

Just picked up a new Legion P220 SAO and as I was taking apart to inspect, I noticed the inside of the dust cover seems to have not been fully coated.

Is this a QA defect or something that would be expected? I compared to my P226 Legion and it has a perfect finish in that area.

Should I call Sig and send it in for touch up?

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What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
Posts: 11420 | Location: Western WA state for just a few more years... | Registered: February 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If they are all like that, then one can make a case for "normal". Otherwise, you should not accept that.

Definitely call SIG.

Btw, on a CZ, that would be normal.


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That’s garbage.
 
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That’s garbage.

This ^^^^^
 
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SIG needs to get their s*** together. Thats terrible.
 
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Yeah, not normal. Call sig
 
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I wouldn't be happy, I'd send it back..
 
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Hell, on my CZ's that would be a good job. lol

Not so much on a Legion though.
 
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So, did you contact SIG and show them the sloppy finish?


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First I must say sorry. I know that must have been really disappointing.

Now I will rant.

WTH?! How could that get past any kind of quality control? Is the Legion not one of Sig's premium pistol lines? I must hear what Sig CS has to say about this mess.

I have wanted a Legion since they were announced, but I feared the coating issues that were reported upon production release. Damn shame! I bet the Legion sales would be double the current volume had it not been for quality concerns.
 
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First I must say sorry. I know that must have been really disappointing.

Now I will rant.

WTH?! How could that get past any kind of quality control? Is the Legion not one of Sig's premium pistol lines? I must hear what Sig CS has to say about this mess.

I have wanted a Legion since they were announced, but I feared the coating issues that were reported upon production release. Damn shame! I bet the Legion sales would be double the current volume had it not been for quality concerns.

This is how, I suspect. The guy who did the final assembly, who is not the same as the QC inspection guy, didn't give a crap about what the interior finish looks like. Once the gun reached the QC guy, whatever his actual task is, you think he's going to disassemble the gun again and look? Somehow I doubt it. Probably racks the slide a couple of times and maybe a couple of test fires and done.


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On a CZ......ehhh is what it is.

On a SIG Legion that would be back to the mothership faster than you can double tap.


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IF the Legion in question is truly factory new then I agree with previous posts that contacting SIG and talking to them about your concerns on how irregular that finish is, would be the right course of action.

However, when I see a blue/green stain in a gun, such as what appears on the Locking Insert in the pic, I start to question whether a copper remover was used...and IF it was used, what effect that might have on the Legion finish.

For Legion owners, I'm curious, are there any warnings about cleaning/lubrication products to be avoided due to possible finish damage, in the owners manual?
 
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Gun bought new, has 12/17 build date.

The blue flecks appear to be from the recoil spring marking to note weight.


In the process of moving my Dad into our house, so wasn’t able to call today. Will be giving them a call Monday though.






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
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If I ever purchase another new Sig pistol, I would most definately remove the slide and inspect it for flaws. Even the rails seem to have a incorrect radius down the top, outside edge. It's like a unskilled person does the machining and burr work. No sir, I wouldn't purchase.
 
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If I ever purchase another new Sig pistol, I would most definately remove the slide and inspect it for flaws. Even the rails seem to have a incorrect radius down the top, outside edge. It's like a unskilled person does the machining and burr work. No sir, I wouldn't purchase.


I do that with every pistol I buy. If the dealer won't let me field strip it, I go somewhere else.

I buy mostly at Hoffman's (I live in Connecticut). If I go early in the morning on a weekday, they'll let me take it apart. Another gun store down the road wouldn't. Hoffman's gets my business now.
 
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Shame....... that’s just disappointing. For the amount they charge for what I would consider a Premium brand pistol, that is just disappointing........
 
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I thought the Legion pistols were supposed to be PVD or some such finish? this appears to be a sprayed on coating and they missed a large swath of the inside. If so how does one part get "deposited" and another doesn't??


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When I received my new Legion P226, it came out of the box with a blotchy finish. Actually parts of the pistol were dry and lighter in color and the dark sections had oil on them.

I generously coated the whole gun with G96 CLP and let sit overnight, then wiped it down and reassembled it. No more blotchy looking finish. You might want to see if that is the issue with your gun before sending it back.
 
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WTH?! How could that get past any kind of quality control? Is the Legion not one of Sig's premium pistol lines? I must hear what Sig CS has to say about this mess.


It’s the lack of QC that is the issue. I would love to look at their process sheets/work orders to see how many specific QC steps are noted.

Every manufacturing step should have a first piece inspection associated with it and the entire lot should be inspected after every major operation.

Well, at least that’s the way it was done when I worked in QA/QC/QE.


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