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LDD Interviews Grayguns: Bruce Gray

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April 07, 2015, 11:22 PM
TKO
LDD Interviews Grayguns: Bruce Gray
Great read LDD. Much like with Rick I was fortunate to spend a couple of days with Bruce back in December at the class in Mesa. Did you know he hadn't been back in 10 years?

It was an experience I will never forget.




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April 08, 2015, 09:34 AM
.45ACP
Very good interview, Bruce is a wellspring of insight.
April 08, 2015, 01:54 PM
JAFO
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Hmmmm. Wonder what's under the towel? Secret Volcano Base stuff, no doubt. Smile


Bruce's porn stash



NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Eek


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April 08, 2015, 02:47 PM
two-two-niner-romeo
Great interview LDD!

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April 09, 2015, 04:51 AM
Tubetone
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Bruce: "I just decided I’m going to go all-out, all-in and do the absolute best work I can completely by hand—everything on the gun from sight installation to barrel fittings, to slide-to-frame-fitting and all the cosmetic work, completely done by hand. I’ve used the milling machine to straighten out a couple of lines externally, everything else is by hand."


That ought to be quite a 1911. What kind of time does hand-fitting every part of a custom 1911 take - if you have an idea? I know of some who have been calling for a gunsmith to make a truly custom 1911 with a real Damascus steel slide for magazine articles. Have you thought about whether you would use old school deep bluing or something else? Is your vision in more of a classic style - if you even know yet? I presume function and accuracy would be first concerns. There just aren't too many examples of that kind of work around or able to be produced anymore. What watchmakers, jewelers and gunsmiths were able to do with just hand tools in the past has been amazing. Good fortune to you along the way.


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April 09, 2015, 10:41 AM
Rotndad
I'm more interested in whats hiding under the paper towel in the first picture. Wink

it looks small. Maybe Bruce is working with Keltec for a 10mm subcompactBig Grin





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April 09, 2015, 11:05 AM
Ed Fowler
I also notice that maybe his extension cord behind him on the wall is a little frayed?
April 09, 2015, 11:32 AM
c1steve
Great interview. Thanks for these interviews LDD, I and everyone really appreciates them.

I think Bruce has been making a classic mistake that is super common among the self employed, myself included. Bruce has been charging too little. If his overall profit margin is only 10% or so, a small price increase would double or triple the profit margin. Often small, moderate cost shops eventually close down because they do not charge enough.


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April 11, 2015, 08:27 AM
greybeard9
It's nice getting to know Bruce. Thanks, LDD.




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April 11, 2015, 08:32 AM
Wino
LDD, it looks like the end of the interview got cut off... can you check it out?

Thanks!
April 11, 2015, 01:02 PM
LDD
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LDD, it looks like the end of the interview got cut off... can you check it out?

Thanks!


I tried to edit the post to put the text in.

It was there before and now it's cut off.

Weird. That happened before, I think the software may be limiting the total length of a post?

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want to buy.

There are very few companies that guarantee the way things we do. We guarantee our work on somebody else’s gun, for life. We can do that, we stand behind it and we don’t regret it. It is a business.

USPSA and IPSC declined for a while in this country largely because people spent an awful lot of money on equipment that did not work and it drove them out of the sport. And we saw that in the early to mid 90s with the rise of all these people building really expensive open guns that did not function. With people constantly having nothing but malfunctions and jams and giving the entire concept of the 1911 a bad name.

These are things that I think people need to realize can still happen. It’s a testament to the quality of production pistols that are out there now that they’re as good as they are and don’t require as much work as what we had in the past. Building 1911s we used to make everything by hand. Now you can buy a trigger kit of a Glock or go to Randy Lee and get great stuff for the M&P, and be down the road and have pretty good assurance you stuff is going to work. But once you step beyond that, you have to be careful.

April 12, 2015, 01:12 AM
ontmark
Great Job LDD and thanks to both of you.



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April 13, 2015, 11:24 PM
incogneato
Another great interview! Thanks to all
April 16, 2015, 05:48 PM
piedrarc
Thanks! Very cool.


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April 16, 2015, 06:46 PM
TigerDore
Nice work, LDD. I really enjoyed the read. Thank you!
April 27, 2015, 07:38 PM
LDD
Part III is now up.
April 27, 2015, 08:53 PM
454gun
Very good interview LDD . Bruce you are one interesting man. I love the three guns you did for me , even if I am one of those 9 months deal . WELL WORTH IT WILL DO SOME MORE.

Jon
May 14, 2015, 08:34 PM
porterdog
Wow, he is so humble. One to learn from for sure.





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September 10, 2015, 09:58 PM
mrtuna
Great interview! I am looking forward to the parts Grayguns is making. Bruce's integrity and character shine through.


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October 07, 2015, 09:07 AM
Greyman
Great interview and glad Bruce is resource for Sig.