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Are primers harder in steel case ammo?

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June 22, 2019, 10:13 PM
BennerP220
Are primers harder in steel case ammo?
I shot some steel through my RM380 and most of the steel ammo had to have a second strike. All of the brass ammo fired first time with no issues. Just curious.
June 23, 2019, 01:45 AM
CandyMan.45
In certain brands... a definite Yes ! Some have been known in certain firearms to take 2-3 strikes to ignite. Wolf for the most part, shouldn't give you too many issues.
June 23, 2019, 05:02 PM
BennerP220
Thank you!

quote:
Originally posted by CandyMan.45:
In certain brands... a definite Yes ! Some have been known in certain firearms to take 2-3 strikes to ignite. Wolf for the most part, shouldn't give you too many issues.

June 23, 2019, 09:24 PM
Cous2492
Tula small pistol primers seem average (never had a bad one in 5k+ rounds. However, I have a case of Tula 45ACP that has had hard primers fail to ignite in three different guns.
June 25, 2019, 09:13 AM
egregore
quote:
Are primers harder in steel case ammo?

There is some small-sample, anecdotal evidence for "it depends." I shot some Wolf .45 in the early 2000s that wouldn't go off, and the firing pin strike was shallow. (The gun was a Glock 30.) It didn't have any trouble with other brands. I don't believe the case material has anything to do with the hardness of the primers, however. They were just hard primers, period.
June 25, 2019, 09:23 AM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
I don't believe the case material has anything to do with the hardness of the primers, however. They were just hard primers, period.


This.

Some ammo has hard primers. Some ammo has steel cases.

Therefore some steel cased ammo has hard primers.
June 25, 2019, 09:14 PM
jhe888
Agreed. Some primers are harder than others. It is not related to the material in the cases.




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June 25, 2019, 09:17 PM
BennerP220
Thank you, everyone.
June 26, 2019, 05:43 PM
ether
Russian and former-commie-bloc ammo tends to have hard primers (and steel cases). It doesn't seem to bother the commie guns designed to shoot it.
July 07, 2019, 07:45 PM
BennerP220
I had more Tula to shoot. I also had more Remington UMC. I had to hit a few of the Tula twice. All the brass UMC was fine.
July 14, 2019, 05:01 PM
Gambit
I have a P220 that shoots wonderfully with Monarch steel case ammo. No ignition problems.


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