New member here...I just purchased a Sig P238. Is it safe to carry condition 2 with the safety off and hammer slightly pulled back to first stop? The trigger will not work so it won’t fire. I do know it’s hazardous eazing the hammer down on a live round, I can deal with that part. Detailed answers would be great. Thank u
I say Condition One. If you need to use the gun, I think you'll have a hard time cocking the hammer one-handed under time pressure. Try it and see, but I think it would be much easier to have the hammer already cocked and just thumb down the safety, a more natural motion.
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I carry the P938 in condition 1 for the exact reason egregore stated. With practice, it is an easy motion to flip the safety with one finger as you draw. It's a great gun, btw, and I think you will enjoy it.
Thank u for your answers. I’ve been getting familiar with my P238 while empty. I have 30 years LE and carried an HK Da/Sa with a decocking lever. I now have a HK VP9 striker, it’s like single action every shot...love it! I’ll just get use to this new gun. Cocked and locked seems to have 3 safeties. 1. Manual safety. 2. No matter what it will not fire unless u pull the trigger. 3. U have to pull the trigger to make it fire. I’m gonna love this little gun and I’ll carry more often! Thanks man!
I really like my 238. Lots of dry fire and drawing from a holster is great practice. It is a light shooting pistol compared to ALL the other 380 pistols I have.
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The P238, whilst not a true 1911, was designed based on a Browning principal that it should be carried in Condition One. egregore's post succinctly explained a very valid reason for Condition One.
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Originally posted by egregore: I say Condition One. If you need to use the gun, I think you'll have a hard time cocking the hammer one-handed under time pressure. Try it and see, but I think it would be much easier to have the hammer already cocked and just thumb down the safety, a more natural motion.
Ditto. It’s very easy to put the P238’s safety in the SAFE or FIRE position without shifting my grip. Yet it stays securely in either position. Occasionally I put a bit of lube on the safety detent pin.
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Condition 1 for me as well. I have carried 1911's, a P238 and P938's regularly for some time and have no worry of an ND occurring. I have the safety disengaged before the barrel clears the holster when drawing. It just takes practice, practice and more practice.
Jim
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