I have a new M 17 I picked up the week they came out , I have put maybe 500 rounds through it and keep it clean , lube with Lucas gun lubes also some Mobil 1 on some areas . If you rack the slide slowly there is still a feeling that it does not go into full battery, the last say 16 of inch or so . It just does not seem right . I have a L/E Compact with a Pre Tension barrel set up and it fine, shoots great . Have any of yours had this and got better with more rounds ?????????????

Does it go into battery when you shoot it? Any problems with the 500 rounds? The x5 guns are "pre-tensioned" and if you release the slide slowly they will hang up out of battery. However, I've put thousands of rounds through mine with zero issues. I don't quite know what the "pretension" is, but perhaps it's the same on the M17. If it's functioning fine I wouldn't give it a second thought.

Do not “rack the slide slowly” as there is no reason to.

The pistol is fine and you are creating the problem by racking the slide slow.

Why does everyone want to baby their guns and ride the slide closed slowly? You do realize that it closes at full speed when you shoot it.

The only reason I can think of might be that you are unloading and reloading carry ammo and are worried about bullet setback. In that case, you can usually assure that it is in battery with a sharp tap with the palm of your hand to the rear of the slide.

No offense to the OP, but it does crack me up. When you fire a gun, you set off a controlled, directed explosion and force a piece of metal down the barrel at high speeds. The slide is slammed backwards, and slams forward again, chambering a round. The round is jammed against the feed ramp and forced into the chamber, where the process repeats.

Slide is supposed to move violently back and forth, in order for the gun to function properly. If it functions as intended, then keep shooting it. Racking the slide slowly tells you nothing.

When you shoot it there has been know problems , I do not baby it or the other auto stuff I own but this just bugged me and the only other Sig I had that did it was the X Carry. Which I traded in toward this M 17 Comm gun. I even swapped the full size recoil rod and spring from another full size late build date 320 and it makes know difference . It must be in the lock up .

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Originally posted by triaxle:
When you shoot it there has been know problems , I do not baby it or the other auto stuff I own but this just bugged me and the only other Sig I had that did it was the X Carry. Which I traded in toward this M 17 Comm gun. I even swapped the full size recoil rod and spring from another full size late build date 320 and it makes know difference . It must be in the lock up .

Damn, man. Why are you trying to create a problem, when there is none? Your gun works. Leave it the hell alone.

You ask a question and five people, including Jerry Jones, give you the same answer, but you still think there is a problem.

Why did you even bother to ask?

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Originally posted by triaxle:
When you shoot it there has been know problems , I do not baby it or the other auto stuff I own but this just bugged me and the only other Sig I had that did it was the X Carry. Which I traded in toward this M 17 Comm gun. I even swapped the full size recoil rod and spring from another full size late build date 320 and it makes know difference . It must be in the lock up .

Try leaving it on the tailgate of your truck then haul ass and let it bounce down the road and see if that will loosen the action up!...

If the slide doesn’t go into battery when you “ride” the slide forward, it very likely could be because the barrel/slide fit is nice and tight (for maximum accuracy and all that). Taking a bench grinder or even a hefty file to all the lockup points on the barrel would probably cure the hesitation.

But yes, more rounds and normal wear may accomplish the same thing.

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Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa:
Try leaving it on the tailgate of your truck then haul ass and let it bounce down the road and see if that will loosen the action up!...

Nah, I'd just go straight to the Dremel with the grinding drum.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Do not “rack the slide slowly” as there is no reason to.

The pistol is fine and you are creating the problem by racking the slide slow.

I'd go with this answer, triaxle. Just go shoot it and enjoy it; nothing to worry about.

Did you polish the feedramp to a mirror finish yet?

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You are artificially inducing an operating limitation into your pistol and complaining that under this condition, your pistol does not work?

Any automatic pistol will fail if its normal return-to-battery operation is robbed of enough energy.

This is like complaining that your car accelerates more slowly when you push the brake and the accelerator peddle down at the same time.

A pistol like the M17 is designed operate under a specific set of circumstances that include realistic challenges (like dirt, and post-firing residue build up). An operator purposefully retarding forward momentum of the slide isn't something SIG can or should plan for. If you operated the pistol in a manner that is not foreseeable by the manufacturer, it's not their fault if it fails to function properly.

This is a don't bring none, won't be none situation.

Stop riding the slide.

Rack that slide like you’re trying to hurt it!

It won’t mind and you can’t hurt it.

There’s no real reason you should be babying a slide.

If you don't believe all the very smart people that have stopped by to respond to you, you can read your owners manual:
"3.5 Loading the Pistol - Continued
6. Release the slide by either:
a. Pressing down on the slide catch lever, releasing the slide forward and chambering a cartridge.
b. Pulling back on the slide and releasing it to chamber a cartridge. Do not ride the slide forward. Failure to properly complete step b may induce a stoppage"

Check page 23

Though I might actually say some of the posters here are smarter than the tech writers on the manual.

It only matters how it actually shoots. You cannot work a slide by hand with the same speed and force that firing a cartridge does.

My M17 does not exhibit this, but many that I handled at my LGS did, including the commemorative ones they had. I assume live fire would be fine, though it did bug me a bit. I own plenty of pistols and the only one that did it was an older Les Baer TRS that I owned for a while. And funnily enough, it had a few live fire FTRB issues.

Thank you for all the reply`s I own a few pistols and this Sig M 17 Comm, and the X Carry are the only ones that would do this . My other Sig, Smith, Glock , Beretta guns you could pull back just to unlock and they snap right shut . This Commemorative must be a tight one .Thank you Lincoln Six Echo , I had a Les Baer hard ball gun that was so tight you could barely rack the slide .