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Apologies to jljones for the thread drift. My experience with early 1980's Colt Government Models was hit or miss. I've owned some good pistols and I've owned some lemons from this era. Most were roundball only affairs. In 1983, I was just becoming acquainted with pistols. In my area choices were quite limited. Other than a handful of Interarms offerings (Star, PPK, P38 & etc.) my exposure was mostly limited to the various Colt Government models and the Smith & Wesson M39/M59. Even though my first centerfire pistol was a Government Model 45 auto, I was intrigued by the M39. Given what I was familiar with at the time (excluding of course the 1911), I would vote for the M39/M59 series. At the time, with my limited knowledge, most of the Interarms offerings seemed to be antiquated or of lesser quality than both Colt or S&W. Of course, had I have known more about the SIG P220 in 1983, my first pistol purchase (and my vote) would have been different. Thanks for a great post. | |||
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^^^^^^ There's that, too. I think TexasRaider was referring to the reliability issue, though. -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
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Unfortunately I think the P7M13 wasn't around that early. So I'd go with a Beretta 92. Runners up in order: 1. FN High Power 2. S&W 59 3. SIG-Sauer P226 ___________________________________________ "He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman | |||
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I know the P7 was availible in the US because when I was a kid, it was on the cover of Guns and Ammo in 1981. I also know the Beretta 92SB was availible in the U.S, by 1983. Guns and ammo did a big Autos vs revolvers shoot off in 1981 or 82 and the writer representing autos, Bob Milek, had one of the first 92SB’s in the US in addition to the mandatory Hoag custom 1911. The SIG P220 .45 was availible as the Browning BDA. The 225 and maybe the 220 were also available via interarms. The first mention of Glocks I recall was in 1984 or 85. Here is an article from 85 when Glocks were still a euro thing: https://americanhandgunner.com/1985issues/HSO85.pdf I think the first Commercial Glocks cane in in 1986, I traded into my Gen 1 G17 in 1989. | |||
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1983, for me it was either a Colt Combat Government or a Colt Commander Model. | |||
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HK P9S _____________________________ People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war, or before an election. - Otto von Bismarck | |||
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In 1983 I had a 9mm Browning HP, which I still shoot today. Geez, I feeel old.... | |||
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Custom ASP S&W 9mm We the unappreciated must do the unimaginable and see the unthinkable to protect the ungrateful | |||
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Another vote for FN GP35 [aka: Browning Hi Power]. My understanding is flawed, but I thought I'd read that the first or second generation of Beretta 92 pistols had some locking block issues? In 1983, I would have selected a Hi Power because it had a reputation that went back to 1937. The British and Canadians had used it for their special forces equivalent sidearm [until recently]. It had almost 50 years of experience in different theaters of combat. Furthermore, the 9mm round would be something that is very 'non-USA', and would allow easier sourcing of ammo for a 4 man team if not in the USA. In addition, the injuries from the ammo would not scream 'US involvement'. parts were not hard to find in many parts of the world- and gunsmiths in places from Argentina to Singapore, from South Africa to Canada, were familiar with it. The Beretta had 10 years of field experience, in more limited locations. There wasn't another semi-auto handgun that would be as easy to source parts or ammo for, world wide. Sure, I could quibble and say the Star Model B 9mm, as it is basically a derivation of the 1911, but in 9mm. This would have the international ammo aspect, but would be harder to source parts for in the field. The CZ75 was a VERY promising Com-Block weapon, that would be available outside said block primarily through Tanfoglio's TZ-75 copy. Getting an actual CZ75 would be harder, and sourcing parts in the field would be about as hard as sourcing parts for a S&W 59. For all of those reasons, I'd stick to the BHP in 9mm [post 1962 version- so it has the external extractor]. Sigs and Non-Sigs: I enjoy having options! | |||
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Yeah, if it is 1983 all over again, the the BHP makes sense as the best choice. At the time the CZ75 is not even into ten year use;the Beretta 92 not proved and most everyone was still into wheel guns as the ne plus ultra. | |||
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1983...my idea of a reliable autoloader would have been a revolver. A S&W 19. My idea of a fast reload would have involved a second revolver. | |||
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Had Beretta 92 , and Smith ASP 9mm | |||
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Awesome karma! I'm in! Wait...is this the wrong 6 month old thread? “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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