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What other factors besides the trigger could cause trigger sting ? Glock 22

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October 05, 2021, 08:28 PM
Sunset_Va
What other factors besides the trigger could cause trigger sting ? Glock 22
Purchased a used Glock 22 sometime back.
When I first shot it, the factory trigger was giving me harsh trigger sting.

Following the advice I received earlier here in Sig Forum, I installed a Johnny Glock trigger. However, I still got trigger sting, but not as severe.

So, decided to install a Vickers Tactical flat trigger. Well, I tested the Glock out today for function after the Vickers install, and there is still enough trigger sting to notice, especially in slow fire.

Could something else be causing trigger sting ? Connector? I don't want to keep buying triggers, but wondering if an alloy trigger would help.

I've owned other Glock pistols, this is the first one ever giving trigger sting.


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October 05, 2021, 08:53 PM
12131
Maybe it's because of that "snappy" .40 caliber on a lightweight poly frame gun?


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October 05, 2021, 08:53 PM
bdavis
So why are you getting sting? Where in the process?

Is the trigger pushing forward as the slide returns to battery?
Do you have to relax your finger to reset the trigger and then squeeze for the next shot?

How is this trigger reacting differently from your other Glock pistols?


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October 05, 2021, 09:25 PM
Sunset_Va
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 12131:
Maybe it's because of that "snappy" .40 caliber on a lightweight poly frame gun?[/QUOTE

I have both a 357 Sig and 9mm conversion barrel, and it happens in all 3 calibers.

It's not something that would hinder me if in a self defense situation. Just annoying when trying to recover from a shot string.


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October 05, 2021, 09:26 PM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by bdavis:
So why are you getting sting? Where in the process?

Is the trigger pushing forward as the slide returns to battery?
Do you have to relax your finger to reset the trigger and then squeeze for the next shot?

How is this trigger reacting differently from your other Glock pistols?


The sting happens at the break.


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October 05, 2021, 10:04 PM
p08
Did it do this with the stock parts in it? Does it have an improperly fitted Ghost trigger bar in it?


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October 05, 2021, 10:14 PM
YooperSigs
I thinks its pretty common in Glock .40s. My G23 was quite a stinger before I put a Polytac trigger in it.


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October 05, 2021, 10:33 PM
VictorLouis
Because... .40 Big Grin
October 05, 2021, 11:38 PM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by VictorLouis:
Because... .40 Big Grin


As in my previous post
have both a 357 Sig and 9mm conversion barrel, and it happens in all 3 calibers.

It's not something that would hinder me if in a self defense situation. Just annoying when trying to recover from a shot string


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October 05, 2021, 11:46 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
Maybe it's because of that "snappy" .40 caliber on a lightweight poly frame gun?


I have both a 357 Sig and 9mm conversion barrel, and it happens in all 3 calibers.

It's not something that would hinder me if in a self defense situation. Just annoying when trying to recover from a shot string.


quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
I've owned other Glock pistols, this is the first one ever giving trigger sting.

What other Glock pistols? Did you ever own a G17?


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October 06, 2021, 12:07 AM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
Maybe it's because of that "snappy" .40 caliber on a lightweight poly frame gun?


I have both a 357 Sig and 9mm conversion barrel, and it happens in all 3 calibers.

It's not something that would hinder me if in a self defense situation. Just annoying when trying to recover from a shot string.


quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
I've owned other Glock pistols, this is the first one ever giving trigger sting.

What other Glock pistols? Did you ever own a G17?


A G19, G23, G26, G31, another G22, G27


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October 06, 2021, 10:51 AM
Nismo
Are you just buying new trigger shoes, or the whole trigger bar assembly? I feel it's the over travel that is at play.

If you have multiple Glocks that share parts, try swapping out different of the same trigger bar, striker, and connector combos, They can have slight different trigger break feel, even though all the parts are technically the same, they have slight nuances due to being mass produced stamped metal parts.
Johnny Glocks does this when he starts a trigger build for a gun that he has in his hands.

One combo can have more of an abrupt snap at the break, while some are a softer rolling break feel.
October 06, 2021, 12:05 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
What other Glock pistols? Did you ever own a G17?


A G19, G23, G26, G31, another G22, G27

So, do you have the same problem with this other G22, too? If yes, then I'd say, something about the full size Glock that doesn't agree with you, because all other Glocks you have are compact/subcompact. If no, then it just makes no sense.


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October 06, 2021, 12:44 PM
ensigmatic
I had a Gen. 1 G22. Trying to recall if I ever experienced trigger slap with it? It kinda sorta sticks in my mind maybe I occasionally did, but, if so, it was certainly never consistent enough or serious enough for me to recall it being a problem.

(I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with that pistol, thus "had.")



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October 06, 2021, 06:39 PM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by Nismo:
Are you just buying new trigger shoes, or the whole trigger bar assembly? I feel it's the over travel that is at play.

If you have multiple Glocks that share parts, try swapping out different of the same trigger bar, striker, and connector combos, They can have slight different trigger break feel, even though all the parts are technically the same, they have slight nuances due to being mass produced stamped metal parts.
Johnny Glocks does this when he starts a trigger build for a gun that he has in his hands.

One combo can have more of an abrupt snap at the break, while some are a softer rolling break feel.


I've just been replacing trigger shoes, perhaps I should replace the trigger bar as you suggested. This is the first Glock I've ever had that's given me this problem.

I've had other guns, mostly striker fired, such as the Ruger LCP II and Max that gave me trigger sting, this is the first large striker fired one that does.

I currently only have one Glock now, the one being discussed.


美しい犬
October 08, 2021, 12:00 PM
Sigwheeler
Have you tried using a new recoil spring assembly? Not sure how used your pistol may be.
October 08, 2021, 12:51 PM
RogueJSK
quote:
Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
Could something else be causing trigger sting ?




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October 08, 2021, 01:45 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
I had a Gen. 1 G22.


A minor niggle, but I was a Gen 2, not 1. There were no Gen 1 .40’s.


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October 08, 2021, 01:52 PM
rchermanjr
Never had that issue.

oh wait, I shoot SIG's Wink

Serious note though...what are the GLOCK FORUMS and Gunsmiths saying on the other sites that would push you to ask Sig guys? Either has to be design flaw.....aftermarket part induced.....or something in shot sequence. I maybe am not understanding the problem...when I hear STING I think the trigger is slapping pad of your finger or recoil is causing bottom of frame where trigger exits to pinch you. If trigger slapping back...does it do it if you maintain the press and only release to reset trigger after shot complete?
October 08, 2021, 05:53 PM
P220 Smudge
When you replaced the triggers, did you replace the springs also?

Everything I’m seeing from my searching is that trigger mods cause it this. I’ve owned a number of Glocks in both 9mm and .40 and never experienced this. Snappy recoil in a .40, yes, but never trigger slap.

Are you entirely sure the trigger that it came with was factory and unmolested? The recommendations I’m seeing, and agree with, is put factory everything back in there and see where you end up. Like as not, it’ll solve your problem.

Stolen from another forum:
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A few things can cause trigger slap on a Glock that I know of off the top of my head, and all are caused by the addition of aftermarket parts.

The connector may not be properly cut to limit rearward trigger travel to a full stop by preventing just enough rear travel for the trigger bar to come down a bit, and this allows the slide to hit the trigger bar on it's return.

Aftermarket trigger bars could have a high spot on the depressor tab, causing it to jump forward as the slide returns to battery.

Then the blade safety may not be small enough to fit flush with the trigger face and can cause you to be more sensitive here under recoil, as can coming off the trigger too soon. Not exactly trigger slap, but a common problem again with some aftermarket parts.



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