Hey, my neighbor just bought a P226 and I took him out back to shoot. It kept jamming after 2 or 3 rounds. Seemed the round from the mag wasn't being chambered. Basically looked like it was pushed up against the bottom of the barrel and not sliding into the chamber. I tried my magazine from my P226 and same problem, so not the mag.

Could this just be break-in? I also noted it was very dry so I told him to lube it up. All my Sigs seemed more oiled when new. I don't know that I've ever even had a jam in my Sigs so this was confusing to me. Advice appreciated.

I'd tell him to clean it thoroughly and grease it good.
When I had Sigs, they ran better greased good.
If that doesn't work, I'd say a call to Sig.

Clean, lube and then hand cycle some rounds

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Originally posted by frayedends:
I also noted it was very dry so I told him to lube it up.

The best advice possible. Classic line SIG pistols are very susceptible to malfunctions if not lubricated adequately. In all the years I and my agency used various Classic SIGs almost exclusively, I observed one gun that had continuing cycling malfunctions. That was a P220 that I had cleaned after being turned in, and which I deliberately left dry. When it was reissued I told the officer we were conducting an experiment with a pistol that wasn’t lubed properly, and guess what?

Yes, the answer is obvious. The gun had one malfunction after another. The cure? Lube on the outside of the barrel and the rails, and it functioned properly ever after throughout the time that officer had it and until it was sent back to SIG years later in exchange for the P320s my agency issues now.

I had the same problem with two different 229's. The first one I sent back to Sig and all they did was polish the feed ramp down to white metal. I did the same for the second one and both worked fine after that. The bluing on the factory feed ramp is not really polished that well and probably creates this problem.

We Be Jammin'

Something is out of wack. Detail clean it and check the barrel and feed ramp for burrs.

All SIGs should work 100% out of the box.

Not much to add, except to say that giving the feed ramp a good scrubbing (or two or three, if the cabin fever's getting to you) with your favorite solvent or cleaner and then rubbing it absolutely dry and clean with an old (clean) t-shirt is worth trying before going to the trouble of polishing it. Might not hurt to do the same to the chamber, breechface and interior of the extractor hook.

And what ammo are you using? I break in all my new guns with the 124 gr NATO spec ammo.

Only my opinion & limited experience. ...

Lube and ammo should not matter... it's a Sig P226.

My first question... New or Used?

It's a new gun. We were both using Blazer brass. It's all he could get since he just bought it last week and it's what I use or WWB depending on price for practice.

Blazer Brass is my preferred target ammunition and I've never had a problem with it. I'd say it's not ammunition related probably.
I'm still in the camp of good cleaning and grease.
I never took a new Sig home and just shot it. Always cleaned and greased. Glock is a different story as they don't need a lot of lubrication.
I tortured(if you want to call it that) a G19 years ago running it dry. I didn't go to failure but I ran ~400 rounds through it and it didn't skip a beat.

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Originally posted by frayedends:
It's a new gun. We were both using Blazer brass. It's all he could get since he just bought it last week and it's what I use or WWB depending on price for practice.

I'd expect Blazer brass to cycle just fine, especially FMJ. I agree to strip, clean, and fire. There is no reason on this planet any new Sig should behave this way, given the price tag. Ever.

I'll report back once he cleans it and lubes it. I've given him the link for lubrication of Sigs. He's a firefighter so he will be at work the next few days.

Also, he used my mag and my ammo and had the same problem while I had no issues. So definitely not the ammo or mag.

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
Lube and ammo should not matter... it's a Sig P226.

Drop on a Q-Tip guy?

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
... limited experience. ...

Evidently.

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
Lube and ammo should not matter... it's a Sig P226.

But should or not, it does.

Winchester 124gr NATO ammo would be better for break-in than Blazer 115gr.
Get some NATO and get that pistol lubed.
It will run.

Lube the heck out of it. Especially the frame rails. Sigs especially the alloy frame ones must be very well lubed.

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
Only my opinion & limited experience. ...

Lube and ammo should not matter... it's a Sig P226.

Been addressed above. So, I'm not going to pound on you more.

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My first question... New or Used?

Should at least read the thread title. There's some clue, there.

I've heard several times that all new Sigs must be cleaned and relubed. Reason: the factory lube is more of a preservative, and must be stripped off and replaced with the proper running grease.

My personal experience with new Sigs seems to bear this out. I forgot once, and sure enough the gun jammed left and right. Fortunately I brought lube to the range with me, and problem solved.

Anyone with input on this?