Yes this is similar to the 232 vs 365 thread but different enough I did not want to hijack that one.

My small carry handguns are a Nano I bought several years ago when they first came out and a 442 as the Nano proved to be too big and heavy for me for when I pocket carry. 442 works perfectly for pocket carry. Neither is my primary EDC but both see considerable carry time.

Obviously both are low capacity, although I almost always put a spare magazine/speed strip in my of side pocket. Anyway I am thinking I trade them both in for a 365 and LCP Max, main driver being capacity. I think 365 to replace Nano is kind of a no brainer as it is only marginally larger and not for pocket carry, lighter, higher capacity and same caliber. LCP Max to replace 442 is a bit less clear. Smaller lighter, more capacity but a downsize in caliber. I have practice and defensive .380 ammo already for my 232 so there's that.

The switch seems to make sense to me as to both but thought I check with the forum and see if I am missing anything. Would you make these changes?

TIA

Do whatever makes sense to you. The only thing I care about out of the four is the P365. So, I personally would get 2 of them instead. Absolutely no reasons for me to get a different second gun.

I’m 5’8” and I can pocket carry a 365. It is waaaay easier to get hits with a 365 then it is an LCP. In fact I find shooting a 365 extremely well shooting. I can shoot it within spitting distance of bigger guns that should shoot circles around it. I can’t do reloads as fast because that is where the small bites me somewhat. I honestly do believe it’s the best new gun in a long time.

Q is right, just get 2.

I would do that trade. The 365 is a great performer and the LCP Max is not bad either. I think you would make out in that trade.

Yeah I dont know much about the LCP but the 365 is a better choice than any of the other guns listed. Times have changed,I recommend changing with them. I'd look at the 365 series, 43x or 48 w/ shield mags or hellcats.

Personally, I’d trade the Nano towards the 365 and keep the 442 if you need to get rid of something. I think you’re gaining absolutely zero with the LCP max if you’re set on getting a 365. A regular LCP makes more sense to me. My opinion only

Thanks for the replies. Swapping the Nano for the 365 is an easy decision. Where I am looking for opinions is swapping a five shot .38 for a 10+1 shot .380 for pocket carry. Its all about the compromises and trade offs in caliber, capacity and size/weight. I don't see the 365 as being a viable pocket carry gun for me although some do find it works for them.

BTW - just to be clear I am not talking even trades, I will have to put some money into this but that is not really the issue.

The LCP Max is a good pistol. I've no experience with the 365.

Even downsizing caliber from the 442, personally,I had rather have the capacity + extra mag of the Max.
The Max is my daily carry.

kho,

I recently bought my first 365 and always carried a 340 J frame and G43x. Onc I shot the 365, I knew that it was the gun to replace both of those models i had so I sold them and went all in on the 365. You cannot go wrong with the 365 at all. I actually bought 2, SAS models and use them as my "small" ccw guns when that is the need and the 365XL is my daily off duty carry, Love these guns. Good luck with your decision as I know buying and selling into a new weapon system is always a headache making sure you did the right thing and will be happy...

I'd grab the 365 and keep the J frame. You already have the .38, ammo and familiarity with the weapon. I wouldn't recommend replacing your entire set of weapons in one move given ammo availability and the current domestic instability.

A couple other reasons to keep the jFrame:
Weight, how much do 10 rounds of .380 weigh. How will that feel in your pocket?

Ability to fire multiple rounds through your pocket. A slide can foul when fired through a pocket, cylinders keep turning. there are some decent videos on you tube demonstrating this. That said, it's an emergency procedure only. I'm not responsible if you shoot your body parts off or set your pants on fire.

The short revolver also has some advantages in ECQC, Craig Douglas and Daryl Bolke have written on it.

The 442 is a reliable pocket carry, in the correct holster doesn't print and with the decent ammo has punch.

I wouldn't trade a J-frame for an LCP. That little revolver will be far more reliable than any micro-compact auto, and makes the perfect pocket carry weapon because it will fire from inside a pocket or in direct muzzle-contact with the target if necessary without jamming, unlike a semi-auto.

I feel far more comfortable stuffing a J-frame with a long, heavy trigger in my pocket than any of the little micro-compacts with light striker triggers. The J-frame also has a grip design that is easier to grab in a pocket without inadvertently pulling the trigger. A semi-auto in the pocket may only get off one round before it jams, but if that one round is an ND and it ends up in your leg or your scrotum, that's one round too many.

Also, so far as I'm concerned, capacity is a non-issue for a pocket gun. If I'm carrying one, it's either out of convenience in a very low threat environment, or as a backup to another gun. Size, light weight, and concealability trump capacity for that application.

The 365, IMO, is a totally different class of weapon. It's a bit too big to work in a pocket, but carries well on a belt and has the capacity and good enough sights to make it a viable primary weapon for somebody who doesn't want or need something bigger. I'm not in love with them as they're a bit small for my hands, but if it fits you it's a solid performer. A 442 in your pocket would compliment a 365 on your belt quite well.

I edc’d a J frame for most of this year & don’t recall being anywhere without one recently. I like the 365 but wouldn’t part with my 442 for one. You’ll soon regret parting with the 442, just say’n..

There are times when I can pocket or ankle carry my 642 better than my 365. It kinda depends on what clothes I’m wearing at that moment. The 5-shot J frame is significantly lighter than a fully loaded 365 and there is a place for that.

To me, I would not get rid of your 442 but I would add a 365.

For myself I'd have no problem trading or selling off a 442; damn snappy mofo, especially with +P loads. I'm not manly enough I suppose, but the LCR is a much more controllable gun in rapid fire for me. But these days it's not lone scumbags we have to concern ourselves with, so five in the wheel would make me feel rather scantily clad, if you get my meaning. As for going to a .380...well in all these years of carrying, training and relying on a .40 G23, that's just some place I WON'T go. YMMV of course, but it wouldn't be my recommendation. Cute guns of extreme convenience are not my thing. Happiness is a gun that lets me know it's on my hip.

In those few times that I've done it, I've found that I don't have any real issues pocket-carrying my base P365s with their flush 10rd mags, but I'd still prefer carrying either of them IWB. See the last sentence in the previous paragraph as to why...

One benefit of J-Frame esque’ revolvers, at least for me, is they come out of a pocket far easier and faster then any semi auto I have ever pocket carried. So besides everything mentioned above about them I also fall into the get the 365 and keep the J camp.

I'm with Eagle1. Bought a 365 and liked it so much it replaced the G43. Kept the J frame as an ankle or pocket gun. A little while later I got a deal on the X slide and put a red dot on it. Even better. It's my daily belt holster gun. A little while after that, I got a deal on a 365SAS and while it's not everyone's cup of tea, it works very well for a pocket/ankle gun for me.
Always have one on me, sometimes I carry both.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
One benefit of J-Frame esque’ revolvers, at least for me, is they come out of a pocket far easier and faster then any semi auto I have ever pocket carried. So besides everything mentioned above about them I also fall into the get the 365 and keep the J camp.

I have to agree. While revolvers like the 442 have limitations, they are too darn good in certain niches to be cast aside.

If possible, I'd keep the J-frame and find a way to get a P365.

Actually, there is very little difference in size between the LCP MAX and the 365 Here is an excellent size comparison:

https://www.handgunhero.com/co...sas-vs-ruger-lcp-max

I would keep the 442 because some days you just might want to carry a wheel gun……I know I do