yes I'm a KelTec fan, they are made here in Florida, and they come out with some great stuff, the folding Sub2000 for example.

Now a rotary barrel 380, no magazine, top loading pistol, interesting stuff again...

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KelTec is my favorite non-serious gun company.

If a firearm has a place to keep extra ammunition to be fed by spring pressure to be used as other rounds are fired, it has a magazine. Some are fixed and some are detachable, but both are magazines.

That looks to be slower to reload than changing a standard magazine.

I’m buying one just so I can tell the gun grammar Nazis I’m loading clips for my new .380 pistol.

They need to bring back the Tec-9.

I had a feeling they were working on something in the .380 realm after they discontinued the P3AT.

How long until S&W comes out with a blatant copy?

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
That looks to be slower to reload than changing a standard magazine.

Not really the point in a tiny defensive .380

If you're in a gunfight and need to reload that thing, you've got way bigger issues at hand.

These came out a bit ago. There is a video floating around on a media day where one of the gun writers has a malfunction. Let's just say that your standard methods of clearing a malfunction don't quite work with a gun that doesn't have a magazine (or has a fixed mag whatever). It took them quite awhile to clear the gun. This is a seriously non serious gun. lol

Years ago they had a pistol with the internal mag, can't remember the model

I had a Grendel P30, very kookie pistol. Owned a SU-16 for a while. The only KelTec I won now is a Sub2000

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Originally posted by BigSwede:
Years ago they had a pistol with the internal mag, can't remember the model

I had a Grendel P30, very kookie pistol. Owned a SU-16 for a while. The only KelTec I won now is a Sub2000

Grendel P10 was the 380 with the internal mag. Friend had one, I thought it was foolish since there was no advantage over a pistol with a removable mag.

At least one would not have to worry about dropping a magazine under pressure.

Wait? This is real?!

Looks interesting. I have a P-32 since the mid-90's. A couple of thousands rounds thru it with no problems. I put the belt clip on it and have carried it in shorts and a tee when I needed deep concealment. Not much, but something. I'll take a look at this thing. They're also advertising online sales (thru an FFL, of course.) You can order directly from their website.

PR-3AT X 2 for a New York Reload

I would imagine the rotating barrel cuts down on the recoil impulse which is always a problem for tiny light .380's?

Isn't that a Beretta thing? I'm not really familiar with the design/concept.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I would imagine the rotating barrel cuts down on the recoil impulse which is always a problem for tiny light .380's?

I'd like to try it out, but I doubt they improved on S&W's Bodyguard 2.0.

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Isn't that a Beretta thing? I'm not really familiar with the design/concept.

Beretta's PX-4 Storm and Grand Power handguns are best-known for their rotating barrel designs. The M&P 5.7 also uses a rotating barrel.

There is zero chance I would choose this thing over my Bodyguard 2.0. All that talk of liberal uprisings today and that’s what I had on my hip. I considered going bigger but I kind of live in a wildly conservative lower risk area. I think the BG 2.0 is the overall best pocket sized 380 you can currently buy. I have 4 I like them so much.