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posted April 30, 2025 03:30 PMHide Post
I can speak on the G17 vs G47 (Gen. 5, of course), but just IMHO. Got an early G17 MOS, which shot nice and smooth and felt great to my hands. It grew a Trijicon tumor, which I later had pangs of regret about and not long after the G47 was released to the public market (I had followed its adoption by Customs and Border Patrol) purchased one. Grip feels the same, but the recoil impulse/feel to me is a very wee bit softer.

Broke the G17 out this week for a range session tomorrow, and a bit of home defense duty time.

ETA: I hit two LGS dealers today. One had quite a few Glocks out; he basically said again what another member here did..folks are picking the G47 over the G17, thus it had so many SKUs cancelled. The other dealer had a couple of Walther PDPs. I now crave a PDP.

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posted May 04, 2025 09:01 PMHide Post
If I have this correct this is what is left of the pistols that survived.

G17 gen 3- 9mm
G17 gen 5 -9mm
G19 gen 3 -9mm
G19 gen 5 -9mm
G19 gen 5 MOS-9mm
G19X-9mm
G20 gen 5 MOS-10mm
G21 gen 5-.45
G23 gen 3-.40
G26 gen 3-9mm
G26 gen 5-9mm
G26 gen 5 MOS-9mm
G30S-.45
G30SF-.45
G42-.380
G43-9mm
G43X-9mm
G43X MOS-9mm
G44-.22
G45 -9mm
G45-MOS-9mm
G48 -9mm
G48- MOS-9mm
G47-MOS-9mm

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posted May 04, 2025 09:05 PMHide Post
All the SF stuff is gone, as is the G23
 
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posted May 04, 2025 09:13 PMHide Post
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Originally posted by rat2306:
I can speak on the G17 vs G47

he basically said again what another member here did..folks are picking the G47 over the G17.


If you want an MOS gun, you have to choose the 47. Glock stopped making the 17MOS a while back. The 47 is a good pistol, but I prefer the 17. So, people choosing the 47 over the 17 is sorta being forced.




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posted May 05, 2025 07:21 AMHide Post
^^I agree with you; to me the G17 seems to have a little more weight towards the muzzle. It would (for want of a better comparison) point and swing sort of like a shotgun to me. The G47, not so much. That little bit of difference in the dust cover, recoil spring assembly, etc. made it a different animal. I got an early G17 MOS.
 
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posted May 05, 2025 09:38 AMHide Post
The big thing I'm seeing about the 17 vs the 47 is that the lighter weight at the front of the slide and the shorter G19/G45 recoil spring assembly in the 47 means it cycles and gets back on target faster than the 17, the way the 45 does. How true that is, how much of a difference it makes, or any of that, I cannot really say. I have a friend who has a 47 with an EFLX on it. If I can get off my butt and actually send my G17 slide to get cut, I'll have a 407C on mine and we can actually do some comparison between the two.


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posted May 05, 2025 10:06 AMHide Post
^^That's an evaluation I'd like to read about. By no means am I slinging mud on either model. They're like sisters; one is a natural blonde, the other is light brown haired.

Sorry about any thread drift; and looking forward to more info on the Gen. 6.
 
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posted May 05, 2025 11:26 AMHide Post
Para may disagree, but I think it's probably germaine to the topic. It's been reported in this thread and I've heard elsewhere as well that Glock is really leaning into the G45 and G47. The G47 didn't make a lot of sense to me (especially in light of them discontinuing the G49, which gives you all the possible slide and frame combos if you pair it with a G47) until I heard that explanation. The G45 has become extremely popular and is undoubtedly a great seller for Glock. To whatever extent the G45 and G47 are eating into sales of their other 9mm models, it makes sense to drop some of those. The G45 has almost completely replaced the G19 for me.

Whenever we get around to that comparison, I'll have a G45 we can add to the mix. Another friend has a G34 and G17L if we can get him to go along. All are Gen 5, so that would be all the various standard slide lengths. I'd post about it in the main Glock thread, if and when.


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posted May 05, 2025 01:07 PMHide Post
If the Gen 6 ends up being a modular solution, the model numbers are going to mean a lot less anyway. You'll have an FCU, a 10-rd, 15rd, and 17rd size grip module, and four different slide lengths (subcompact, compact, full, and long slide). The longer slides will have to have a longer housing for the recoil assembly at the nose if they're going to mate up with the smaller grip modules, so in that scenario it makes more sense to keep the 47 than the 17.

But obviously that's all just pure speculation at this point.
 
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posted May 05, 2025 08:32 PMHide Post
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The Gen5 Glock 34 MOS is surprising.


I thought the same thing. The 17L MOS Gen5 has not even been out that long. I remember seeing a video at SHOT 2 years ago and they were like the 17L is here to stay.
 
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posted May 05, 2025 10:00 PMHide Post
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But obviously that's all just pure speculation at this point.


From a factory standpoint…..maybe.

Within a year, the aftermarket will have four or five manufacturers cranking out 17 slides and guide rods if that is what the market wants. It’s the truly sweet thing about the support out there for Glocks.




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I’m not a Glock guy but I had been pondering for about a year if I should buy the 32C since I’m a huge 357 sig fan and wanted to try one ported. I came across a new Gen 4 32C last month and bought it kinda glad I did now didn’t know this was happening.
 
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posted May 09, 2025 07:19 AMHide Post
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Originally posted by rat2306:
^^I agree with you; to me the G17 seems to have a little more weight towards the muzzle.


The G47 is actually over an ounce heavier than the G17 because of the beefed-up area of the slide at the muzzle.

G17 MOS = 24.87 oz
G47 MOS = 25.93 oz

I'm really splitting hairs here but it should be even more durable than the G17 at high round counts.




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posted May 09, 2025 07:55 AMHide Post
Discontinuing the G49 comes as no surprise. Once the extremely vocal minority (57 people) purchased their G49, sales completely stopped. Big Grin


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posted May 09, 2025 08:22 AMHide Post
That has to be the dumbest video I have ever seen. Dude rattles on says a few thousand words in a salad, and says nothing. Listening to him try to explain who Larry Vickers is was like pistol whipping a blind kid.

The gun on that video was extremely low round count, if you turn the audio off so you don’t have to listen to dude having a stroke, you can clearly see no wear at all on the barrel, no wear on the extractor channel, no wear on the inside of the hood or breach face. Whatever happened happened at low round count. My guess is manufacturing defect or abuse. Cause wear and tear didn’t do that.




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posted May 09, 2025 08:48 AMHide Post
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That has to be the dumbest video I have ever seen. Dude rattles on says a few thousand words in a salad, and says nothing. Listening to him try to explain who Larry Vickers is was like pistol whipping a blind kid.

The gun on that video was extremely low round count, if you turn the audio off so you don’t have to listen to dude having a stroke, you can clearly see no wear at all on the barrel, no wear on the extractor channel, no wear on the inside of the hood or breach face. Whatever happened happened at low round count. My guess is manufacturing defect or abuse. Cause wear and tear didn’t do that.



In his example, I agree. manufacturing defect.
No one here with any experience with Glocks believes this is common on low round count Glock pistols.
No one here with experience with Glocks with high round count pistols even believes it's common.

The point is that in high round count pistols, It can and does happen. Like I said, I'm really splitting hairs. The Battlefield Las Vegas article below the video has a more realistic expectation at extremely high round counts. Show me an example of a Glock 34 that broke in the same location. I'm sure you can find an example somewhere. Just saying.... Smile


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posted May 09, 2025 09:00 AMHide Post
Interesting that the Gen.5 G17 is about an ounce more svelte than the G47, Jupiter. I took both out; and my G17 does indeed feels better towards the muzzle than the 47. Perhaps it's just my hands and grip on them, but... Read the comments on that video of the broken G19; quite a few guys think it fell (or was dropped) muzzle first. Ouch.
 
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posted May 09, 2025 09:09 AMHide Post
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Interesting that the Gen.5 G17 is about an ounce more svelte than the G47, Jupiter. I took both out; and my G17 does indeed feels better towards the muzzle than the 47. Perhaps it's just my hands and grip on them, but... Read the comments on that video of the broken G19; quite a few guys think it fell (or was dropped) muzzle first. Ouch.


Don't get too carried away by the video or the comments below it. That kind of issue is extremely rare. I posted it just to show the location where a crack can happen. If you read the Battle Field LV article, Glocks are the most durable pistols they have. I believe it was a manufacturing defect like Jones suggested.


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posted May 09, 2025 09:43 AMHide Post
Plus this is from 8 years ago. I'm sure this has been addressed some time ago.
 
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posted May 09, 2025 11:13 AMHide Post
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Plus this is from 8 years ago. I'm sure this has been addressed some time ago.


And if you break a slide, Glock will replace it. It’s funny, I think even if there were a chance of something being liable to break on a Glock, it would be the last brand I can think of where I’d worry about them telling me “tough luck.”


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