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Any love for Von Stavenhagen sights?

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March 14, 2018, 11:50 AM
iron chef
Any love for Von Stavenhagen sights?
Any love for Von Stavenhagen, aka bar-dot, aka i-dot, aka old style Sig contrast sights? In my experience w/ different sights, they work best for me. I got a Canik TP9SA this past weekend that has 3-dot sights, but the rear sight also has a vertical bar in-between the two dots. The bar seemed to help me more than standard 3-dots alone.

I had a gun w/ XS Big Dot. I could make it work, but I didn't like it as much, b/c you can't align the top of the front and rear sights. I thought they were good for close, rapid fire, but not so good if you're aiming for tight groups.

Does Sig make a Von Stavenhagen rear sight for the P320? I compared against my P228, and the rear sights don't look intercompatible.

I know bar-dot fans like myself are a very small minority. What are the supposed disadvantages of Von Stavenhagens?
March 14, 2018, 11:52 AM
Il Cattivo
Much love. The only disadvantage I can see is that it's as difficult as all get out to create a night-visible version of the setup. I'm all for redundancy where it poses no real burden, but Von Stavenhagens and a light on the rail are enough to make me happy.
March 14, 2018, 11:53 AM
12131
quote:
Any love for Von Stavenhagen sights?

Yes. Smile


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March 14, 2018, 12:08 PM
Nick
My favorite.


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March 14, 2018, 12:15 PM
BBMW
I was going to say this.

Before the proliferation of tritium night sights, Bar Dot was fine. But it's easier to do a three dot Tritium vs bar dot, and the tail ended up wagging the dog, in that the popularity of three dot tritium night sights ended up increasing the popularity of plain three dot sights.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Much love. The only disadvantage I can see is that it's as difficult as all get out to create a night-visible version of the setup. I'm all for redundancy where it poses no real burden, but Von Stavenhagens and a light on the rail are enough to make me happy.

March 14, 2018, 12:15 PM
MNSIG
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo: The only disadvantage I can see is that it's as difficult as all get out to create a night-visible version of the setup.


It's not quite the same, but the Ameriglo iDot is pretty close and works for me.
March 14, 2018, 12:41 PM
dehughes
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Originally posted by Nick:
My favorite.


Mine as well.

Someone needs to get these manufactured again.

Not iDots, not straight-8s, but the real, exact same bar-dot sights that SIG used to make. I'd buy at least one other pair for my current and future SIGs....more if they made others to fit different pistols as well.

Regarding a night-sight version, you could just use a tritium vial for the front, and then a square vial for the rear, yes? Or does tritium only come in "round". Wink


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March 14, 2018, 02:16 PM
soggy_spinout
Oh yeah. It's why I like and prefer straight-8 sights as much as I do.
March 14, 2018, 03:06 PM
Il Cattivo
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Regarding a night-sight version, you could just use a tritium vial for the front, and then a square vial for the rear, yes? Or does tritium only come in "round". Wink

I'm afraid that with my vision they're all kinda round and fuzzy. I still think the "fuzzy dot on a fuzzy popsicle stick" would work for me, though.
March 14, 2018, 03:07 PM
Anush
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My favorite.


Yes, Bar on the rear with the front replaced with a Sig TFO. This is the setup on my X5 Tactical.


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March 14, 2018, 05:19 PM
jwk226
Yes! I like ‘em the best! I wish all my Sigs had them installed.
March 14, 2018, 07:15 PM
got2hav1
Absolutely my favorite. Smile


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March 14, 2018, 07:24 PM
Green Highlander
Love them. I had them on my first P229 and then searched out an older P226 since I like them better than 3 dots.


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March 14, 2018, 07:35 PM
Syngin1066
Big fan. I keep the rear but replace the front with a mepro night sight


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March 14, 2018, 08:11 PM
rbmcmjr
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Originally posted by dehughes:Regarding a night-sight version, you could just use a tritium vial for the front, and then a square vial for the rear, yes? Or does tritium only come in "round".

The rear gets mounted across the slide so it forms a line rather than a square. You still get the same effect.

This is a crock product but you get the idea: https://shop.opticsplanet.com/...2w7dhtgaAsMEEALw_wcB
March 14, 2018, 08:22 PM
pbramlett
Indeed I do. My two favorite sigs still have them.




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P.
March 14, 2018, 08:32 PM
parabellum
Yes, I pick up the sight picture quickly with these bar/dot sights, and they go with SIGs like peas and carrots.
March 14, 2018, 08:40 PM
j38
My favorite, as well - especially with aging eyes. I would buy more of these for other guns if a good version was available.

Jerry
March 14, 2018, 09:42 PM
LincolnSixEcho
Much preferred to any 3 dot picture
March 14, 2018, 10:48 PM
Dtech
Big fan of them here. I actually prefer them to any other sight setup although I do like the Glock dot and goal post outline as a close second. Not that fond of three dot sights in general but as long as I can get a good physical sight alignment, I tend to ignore the rear dots and focus on sight outline alignment and the front dot.


-Dtech
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