Ok I am not that much of a dumbass, I can divide by 3.

I have been doing a lot more airgun shooting as of late and the following thought came to mind.

If have a 60’ wall to wall run that is 20 yards. Easy right? My question is academically does one measure yardage from the shooter or from the muzzle? I typically do so from the muzzle so with me shooting back to wall I usually call it about 18 yards.

At any rate what is the accepted norm? Shooter to target or muzzle to target?

I’m bored.....these questions come up in my head. I can’t help it.

The normal rule is from a line to the target.

Another way of putting it is: The shooter is on the 10 yard line, so depending on your arm length or stance/position, the muzzle is actually a little nearer than that.

For me, I count it from my eyes to target.

Gun to target, so from the muzzle. And I shoot at an angle across my yard into a corner of the fence in order to get a little more distance.

Name a recognized shooting discipline where muzzle to target is the rule... There might be some so I'm willing to learn about them.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
The normal rule is from a line to the target.

This^^^

If your feet are on the firing line and your muzzle is slightly beyond it, or you're a 1/2 step back, and your muzzle is right on the line, you're only talking 2 - 2 1/2 feet depending on arms length. But the "standard" is actual distance from the firing line to the target.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Name a recognized shooting discipline where muzzle to target is the rule... There might be some so I'm willing to learn about them.

Thanks all.

I wasn’t saying muzzle to target was correct I was just curious as to what the accepted rules were. It seems like shooter position on the line so (eyes to target as was said). I just tend to use muzzle to target recreationally to give what I thought was a truer distance to target.

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
The normal rule is from a line to the target.

This^^^

If your feet are on the firing line and your muzzle is slightly beyond it, or you're a 1/2 step back, and your muzzle is right on the line, you're only talking 2 - 2 1/2 feet depending on arms length. But the "standard" is actual distance from the firing line to the target.

Yep, was figuring about 3 feet for a rifle.

It's like free throws or three pointers - if your feet are behind the line, it counts.

Toes to target, except at the 10 yard line. The overhead lights are right at the 10 and if we don't take a couple steps back casings start damaging lights...

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Originally posted by cslinger:

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Name a recognized shooting discipline where muzzle to target is the rule... There might be some so I'm willing to learn about them.

I wasn’t saying muzzle to target was correct I was just curious as to what the accepted rules were.

Hrcjon wasn’t saying that to you; he was responding to Il Cativo, right above him, who did, in fact, assert that the standard is “muzzle to target.”

Cheers!

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Name a recognized shooting discipline where muzzle to target is the rule... There might be some so I'm willing to learn about them.

There is none.

The firing line realates to the shooter. It may not be crossed. For prone shooting it´s the supporting hand. For kneeling and standing position it`s the tip of the shoe. It applies for NRA, CPM and ISSF shooting rules

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Originally posted by TheMan:

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Originally posted by cslinger:

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Name a recognized shooting discipline where muzzle to target is the rule... There might be some so I'm willing to learn about them.

I wasn’t saying muzzle to target was correct I was just curious as to what the accepted rules were.

Hrcjon wasn’t saying that to you; he was responding to Il Cativo, right above him, who did, in fact, assert that the standard is “muzzle to target.”

Cheers!

Indeed. How else would you get a consistent 100 yards? As for the rule books for different forms of shooting competitions, that wasn't the question that was asked. Nor, for that matter, is that really what rule books are for - rule books are simply meant to keep competitors from bickering over minutia.

@ cslinger, you will find the definition for distance in section 6 "Range standards" of most NRA rule books.
https://competitions.nra.org/c...esources/rule-books/

So basically what all ya'll(yes I said all ya'll )are saying is I can eke out another yard worth of bragging distance.

I honestly didn't expect this much discussion but truly thank much all.

Chris

In a shooting match, making sure everyone's muzzle was behind an imaginary line in the air would be tough to enforce, keeping people's feet behind a real line is much easier.

Eye to target would be my answer... or laser range finder to target.

in many years at this I have seen two primary variations. The shooting distance is always measured from the target to a line. Normally the restriction is that no part of the competitor’s body may touch the ground over the line. The second in some matches I've done is there a shooting box and everything has to be in the box.
Both are easy to enforce. Since the OP original question was the 'norm' the first is the norm.
But since Il Cattivo has said the rule book has limited utility I'm planning to try to win next week by walking the 200y to the targets and shooting from about 3 feet. Will see if there is any bickering about that minutia... Or if actually I can win from that distance, its not a given

I like to fall forward of the line and break the shot just before I fully loose balance and fall on my chest, as that gets my muzzle closer.

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But since Il Cattivo has said the rule book has limited utility I'm planning to try to win next week by walking the 200y to the targets and shooting from about 3 feet. Will see if there is any bickering about that minutia... Or if actually I can win from that distance, its not a given Smile

Hey, if you want to walk out in front of an active firing line...