The employee said that the extractor broke. I asked him how many rounds and he said about 30,000. A couple hundred rounds a day for 6 months.

He said that the P365 is their second most rented gun after a Glock (but I don't remember which model).

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Originally posted by opticsguy:
The employee said that the extractor broke. I asked him how many rounds and he said about 30,000. A couple hundred rounds a day for 6 months.

He said that the P365 is their second most rented gun after a Glock (but I don't remember which model).

30k rounds is dang good! 10 x more than mine will ever see.

yeah, 30,000 rounds of hard use is not a bad run at all

30,000 rounds. Pffft what a POS.

Seriously though if they are even close
To the round count that is one hell of a solid performance.

Not sure OP's post is meant to praise how amazing the gun is or to gripe what a piece of crap it is.

I did not know that some ranges log round count on their rental pistols and how that is even possible as a lot of people rent multiple pistols using the same ammo purchase from the range. None of them around here do when I rent firearms.

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Originally posted by grumpy1:
I did not know that some ranges log round count on their rental pistols and how that is even possible as a lot of people rent multiple pistols using the same ammo purchase from the range. None of them around here do when I rent firearms.

If they do keep count at all, it can only be a rough estimate, because, like you say, it really is impossible to keep an accurate round count of a rental gun.

Depends. Some ranges require rentals use ammo purchased at the time of rental. Pretty easy to track that way.

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Originally posted by Fredward:
Depends. Some ranges require rentals use ammo purchased at the time of rental. Pretty easy to track that way.

Yeah but it’s still just an estimate. I’ve rented guns I didn’t like and dropped the rest of the ammo into my range bag. I’ve also gone through their overpriced stuff and just used some of my own.

Everything is computerized in modern retail.

They should track round count on all their guns - lots of count-related maintenance/replacement items. Both to ensure safe operation as well as to be able to prove proper maintenance if needed for liability purposes.

For example as you know (everybody reads their manuals, right?) the SIG P365 needs its recoil spring assembly replaced after 2,500 rounds. Quoted below from page 40 of the manual....

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The P365 recoil spring guide assembly is not to be disassembled. It is serviced as a single unit. It should be replaced at 2500 round intervals.

In my case, I put maybe twice that number through mine before seeing occasional loading issues. Replaced the assembly and bingo - back to flawless operation.

FWIW, even if the estimate was off by 50% that's pretty good. I specifically asked if firing pins had been a problem and the answer was no.

There is a poster elsewhere in the ether who works at a rental range in Las Vegas, who has reported extensively on the ranges experiences with various firearms (mostly everything that's popular or common), and they have very well documented experience on round counts, life expectancies, typical failures, the point of accuracy degredation, and so on. They do an incredibly high volume of business and go through a lot of firearms. He's been able to point to a consistent point at which certain failures occur in certain firearms, and so on.

Given that many ranges don't maintain their rental weapons all that well (I've seen a lot of very dirty, fairly poorly lubricated rental firearms), it might be expectedthat firearms in private or professional use might last longer with regular maintenance.

The Las Vegas location changes springs, cleans, lubricates, and does a lot of preventative maintenance to keep the firearms running, but seems to have a good handle on the economic life of most typical and popular pistols, rifles, shotguns, and automatic weapons.