Yesterday I was digging through some collected brass which included my stash of 1943 50 cal brass (my favorite year). I discovered a casing that is comparable to a 50 top and bottom but is 7/8 inch shorter. Any clues as to what it might be be?
October 01, 2025, 07:36 AM
sigfreund
With enough precise measurements, it might be possible to identify it with the charts in a Cartridges of the World book. Some pictures, including of the headstamp, might help as well.
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October 01, 2025, 11:00 AM
RogueJSK
There's the 12.7×81mm round used by the WW2-era British .50 Vickers HMG/AA guns.
Its case is 3.2 inches long, compared to .50 BMG's 3.9 inches.
Vickers 12.7x81mm on top Browning 12.7x99mm/.50 BMG on bottom
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October 01, 2025, 07:12 PM
Udo
Thanks, we're close but the case measures 3 inches exactly. (77mm) It's marked: 1000 - F 1400 - A 1900 - 6 1700 - 0 Suspect these are U.S. markings. The short case base is 19mm while the long case is 20mm
October 01, 2025, 07:26 PM
RogueJSK
Sure it isn't 76mm?
At 12.7x76mm, it'd be from the M48 spotter-tracer rounds for the M8C spotting rifle mounted on a 105mm M40 recoilless rifle.
The headstamp reflect manufacture by the Frankford Arsenal in 1960, so it's definitely US, and in the right time frame for M8C use.
October 01, 2025, 08:17 PM
Udo
I think we may have a winner. It is 76mm in length. The case mouth is damaged enough to prevent accurate measure. I have been around some 105RR firings, so that may be where it came from.