I need to stock up some more ammo for the AK’s. Deals are out there and interested in trying some of the red army ammo. They have fmj’s, hp’s and something listed as frangmenting HP’s, all 124gr. Seeing if anyone has tried it.
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February 09, 2019, 09:32 PM
Jager
I read a handful of years ago that the "Red Army" line was the bottom of the available barrel when it came to 7.62x39mm.
If I have to use the caliber, current production ammunition, cost being a consideration, go with with Wolf.
Standard FMJ is about $180/1000 now. For about $210/1000 you can get the non magnetic bullet if that's a consideration.
September 06, 2019, 09:17 AM
Rev. A. J. Forsyth
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I read a handful of years ago that the "Red Army" line was the bottom of the available barrel when it came to 7.62x39mm.
If I have to use the caliber, current production ammunition, cost being a consideration, go with with Wolf.
It's all made by Barnaul.
September 06, 2019, 09:27 AM
RogueJSK
My preferred 7.62x39 stockpile ammo is Golden Tiger, made by Vympel. Slightly higher quality and slightly more accurate than the other Russian steel cased "animal" brands, but not much more expensive, and also still available with a lacquered case to prevent corrosion.
I've had issued with some of the polymer-coated steel cased ammo developing rust spots after several years of storage. Never had that issue with lacquer coated ammo. (And no, lacquer coated ammo wont "gum up your chamber" or any of that hysterical interweb hyperbole.)
I read a handful of years ago that the "Red Army" line was the bottom of the available barrel when it came to 7.62x39mm.
If I have to use the caliber, current production ammunition, cost being a consideration, go with with Wolf.
It's all made by Barnaul.
The "Big 4" Russian ammo factories are Tula, Ulyanovsk, Barnaul, and Vympel. The ammo they produce is distributed and sold under various brand names, and sometimes (like Wolf and Red Army Standard) these brands use ammo from multiple factories inside Russia and elsewhere.
Red Army Standard and Wolf are just distribution brands. They don't represent one lone factory, although they sometimes have primary factories that they source most of their contracts from.
Wolf contracts with a number of the different Russian ammo factories to produce runs, and occasionally sources ammo from factories in other countries (like Germany, Taiwan, and Serbia). They used to source most of their 7.62x39 from Tula, but currently, most of their 7.62x39 is made by Barnaul.
Similarly, Century Arms under their Red Army Standard brand sources their ammo from a number of different factories in several different countries, including Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Bosnia, and Poland. They used to get most of their 7.62x39 from the Lugansk factory in Ukraine, but after the war in Ukraine fired up they switched to mostly using Ulyanovsk and Vympel.
October 16, 2019, 11:49 AM
229DAK
Be aware of range restrictions concerning steel core or steel case ammunition.
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December 15, 2019, 12:37 PM
walker77
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Originally posted by RogueJSK: My preferred 7.62x39 stockpile ammo is Golden Tiger, made by Vympel. Slightly higher quality and slightly more accurate than the other Russian steel cased "animal" brands, but not much more expensive, and also still available with a lacquered case to prevent corrosion.
I've had issued with some of the polymer-coated steel cased ammo developing rust spots after several years of storage. Never had that issue with lacquer coated ammo. (And no, lacquer coated ammo wont "gum up your chamber" or any of that hysterical interweb hyperbole.)