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Best self defense ammo for a 38 special
July 14, 2026, 11:16 AM
71 TRUCKBest self defense ammo for a 38 special
My wife and I will visit locations that do not allow carry inside there property. You have to go through a scanner in the parking garage to get in.
I normally carry a small 380 and unload it, including the chamber before placing in a lock box that has a cable attaching it to our car.
My thought was a 5 of 6 shot revolver and a speed loader might be better.
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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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NRA Life Member July 14, 2026, 02:14 PM
Bullwinkle J MooseOptimum ammo will depend on the barrel length and sturdiness of the weapon you choose. Have you considered a micro 9? Ones with higher capacity, smaller size and perhaps equal or less recoil than a 38 are available.
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July 14, 2026, 02:44 PM
dking271My personal favorite 38 special ammo is the Speer Gold Dot 135gr +p short barrel (23921GD). It’s not the easiest stuff to find but it functions very well out of short barreled revolvers.
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July 14, 2026, 02:52 PM
71 TRUCKquote:
Originally posted by Bullwinkle J Moose:
Optimum ammo will depend on the barrel length and sturdiness of the weapon you choose. Have you considered a micro 9? Ones with higher capacity, smaller size and perhaps equal or less recoil than a 38 are available.
Whenever we go to a place like I mentioned above I have a 380 I will bring.
What I am trying to not have to do is, remove a magazine, rack a slide to remove a round then store it in my lock box, then reverse the process to re load the firearm, all while sitting in a car in a somewhat busy parking lot.
My thought was that a revolver with a speed loader would avoid any loose rounds in the lock box and not having to re rack the slide in a car to re load the gun. To me this process may be a little safer.
I know pointing the firearm down to reload, god forbid something should malfunction I don't want a round shooting through the floor of my car and skipping around a parking lot.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State
NRA Life Member July 14, 2026, 03:02 PM
71 TRUCKquote:
Originally posted by dking271:
My personal favorite 38 special ammo is the Speer Gold Dot 135gr +p short barrel (23921GD). It’s not the easiest stuff to find but it functions very well out of short barreled revolvers.
Thanks.
I am looking at a revolver with a barrel length around a little shorter than 2 inches and holds 5 rounds.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State
NRA Life Member July 14, 2026, 09:36 PM
Bullwinkle J Moosequote:
Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:
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Originally posted by Bullwinkle J Moose:
Optimum ammo will depend on the barrel length and sturdiness of the weapon you choose. Have you considered a micro 9? Ones with higher capacity, smaller size and perhaps equal or less recoil than a 38 are available.
Whenever we go to a place like I mentioned above I have a 380 I will bring.
What I am trying to not have to do is, remove a magazine, rack a slide to remove a round then store it in my lock box, then reverse the process to re load the firearm, all while sitting in a car in a somewhat busy parking lot.
My thought was that a revolver with a speed loader would avoid any loose rounds in the lock box and not having to re rack the slide in a car to re load the gun. To me this process may be a little safer.
I know pointing the firearm down to reload, god forbid something should malfunction I don't want a round shooting through the floor of my car and skipping around a parking lot.
I load 125gr +p jhps in my J frame. I never agonized over "the best," but many recommend them and I certainly would not want to be on the recieving end of this combination.
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July 15, 2026, 08:07 AM
dking271quote:
Thanks.
I am looking at a revolver with a barrel length around a little shorter than 2 inches and holds 5 rounds.
I have a S&W 642 Pro which is cut for moon clips but can be used with or without. I load and unload my initial 5 rounds with a moon clips, and carry a reload in a safariland speedloader. It makes the extraction of the first five shells a lot more positive and the speedloader is easier to load than a moon clip. Is there a law/reason you are loading and unloading your firearm before you lock it up? I just unholster and lock mine up to avoid messing with a loaded firearm in public.
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July 15, 2026, 10:13 AM
71 TRUCKquote:
Originally posted by dking271:
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Thanks.
I am looking at a revolver with a barrel length around a little shorter than 2 inches and holds 5 rounds.
I have a S&W 642 Pro which is cut for moon clips but can be used with or without. I load and unload my initial 5 rounds with a moon clips, and carry a reload in a safariland speedloader. It makes the extraction of the first five shells a lot more positive and the speedloader is easier to load than a moon clip. Is there a law/reason you are loading and unloading your firearm before you lock it up? I just unholster and lock mine up to avoid messing with a loaded firearm in public.
Thanks for the information.
Is there a law/reason you are loading and unloading your firearm before you lock it up?
Yes, no law that I am aware of however.
As a past active firefighter and fire service instructor in New Jersey we used to teach about the hazards of fighting vehicle fires. When I moved to Florida and started carrying, in a class some ware my wife and I took, the instructor talked about loaded fire arms left in a car and if the car caught on fire the fire arm could go off and what ever direction the barrel was pointing the round would go. So for me it is a safety issue.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State
NRA Life Member July 16, 2026, 10:10 AM
sigfreundOnce a loaded gun is exposed to enough fire heat, it will definitely discharge, and all the cylinders of a revolver will fire in addition to the one in line with the barrel. Those extra discharges will often/usually be partially blocked by the gun itself, but I believe that part of the bullets may still be expelled, and may still be dangerous.* If I were concerned about the danger posed by a gun’s discharging in a fire, I’d just store it so that it was pointed in a safe direction if that happened. I have a small steel lock box I could use in my car that would probably contain a discharge from a low-powered handgun like a 2" 38 S&W Special.
* As an example of what I believe was an egregious AI mistake, I asked Gemini what would happen to the unaligned loaded revolver cylinders in a fire just to see what its response would be. The initial answer was that they would discharge, but it would be like if the cartridges were loose in a fire, and the bullets wouldn’t be dangerous. I don’t know where it found that answer on the Internet, but as has been mentioned frequently here, don’t trust all of AI’s answers.
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71 TRUCKquote:
Originally posted by Bullwinkle J Moose:
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Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:
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Originally posted by Bullwinkle J Moose:
Optimum ammo will depend on the barrel length and sturdiness of the weapon you choose. Have you considered a micro 9? Ones with higher capacity, smaller size and perhaps equal or less recoil than a 38 are available.
Whenever we go to a place like I mentioned above I have a 380 I will bring.
What I am trying to not have to do is, remove a magazine, rack a slide to remove a round then store it in my lock box, then reverse the process to re load the firearm, all while sitting in a car in a somewhat busy parking lot.
My thought was that a revolver with a speed loader would avoid any loose rounds in the lock box and not having to re rack the slide in a car to re load the gun. To me this process may be a little safer.
I know pointing the firearm down to reload, god forbid something should malfunction I don't want a round shooting through the floor of my car and skipping around a parking lot.
I load 125gr +p jhps in my J frame. I never agonized over "the best," but many recommend them and I certainly would not want to be on the recieving end of this combination.
Thanks for the information.
I am currently looking at a couple of websites that have 129gr+p at this time. My wife and I may visit a friend who own a gun store this weekend and I will look at what he also has.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State
NRA Life Member July 16, 2026, 11:14 AM
71 TRUCKquote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
Once a loaded gun is exposed to enough fire heat, it will definitely discharge, and all the cylinders of a revolver will fire in addition to the one in line with the barrel. Those extra discharges will often/usually be partially blocked by the gun itself, but I believe that part of the bullets may still be expelled, and may still be dangerous.* If I were concerned about the danger posed by a gun’s discharging in a fire, I’d just store it so that it was pointed in a safe direction if that happened. I have a small steel lock box I could use in my car that would probably contain a discharge from a low-powered handgun like a 2" 38 S&W Special.
* As an example of what I believe was an egregious AI mistake, I asked Gemini what would happen to the unaligned loaded revolver cylinders in a fire just to see what its response would be. The initial answer was that they would discharge, but it would be like if the cartridges were loose in a fire, and the bullets wouldn’t be dangerous. I don’t know where it found that answer on the Internet, but as has been mentioned frequently here, don’t trust all of AI’s answers.
Thanks for the information.
This was the reason I did not like to leave a semiauto in the car with one in the chamber. Even though I would remove the mag by not removing the round from the chamber the gun is still loaded. This is why I removed the round from the chamber.
My wife and I hardly visit places where we are not aloud to carry. One place we do go, you have to go through a scanner to get on to the outside shopping area.
I do not like being unarmed during the trip over and the trip back from home.
This is why my thoughts of a revolver would work. I could unload it when we get there, place the rounds in a speed loader so they are not loose in the steel box. Before we are ready to get back on the road the reload with the speed loader.
This may be a better process then reloading with a magazine then toping off the magazine with the loose round.
The one nice thing, I already have the revolver and three speed loaders now I just need good self defense ammo and a holster.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State
NRA Life Member July 23, 2026, 01:55 PM
stiabquote:
Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:
Thanks.
I am looking at a revolver with a barrel length around a little shorter than 2 inches and holds 5 rounds.
Those sights were factory calibrated for 158g, but 148g will also work well.
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August 06, 2026, 08:13 AM
Airborne 82.Step one go to a gun range that you can try a 38 with a 2in barrel like a Smith J frame. Then try a K frame 3-4in barrel. I shoot a K model 10 4in with plus p and it can still be a hand full after 25 pluss rounds and if you don't practice at least that much every 2 weeks (minimum) well enough said. I think both sizes will serve you well if you put in the time down range. You are way over thinking the fire deal. I would find another place to park.
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August 06, 2026, 08:22 AM
Airborne 82.Forgot to say For self defence full wad cutters NOT simi-wad cutters. They cut blood vessels better instead of pushing stuff out of the way.
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Fort Bragg NC
August 10, 2026, 09:44 PM
oddball^^^^^
When I had a .38 special snubnose for home defense, I used Federal wadcutters, a great round. Reduced recoil, but makes a nice big hole. If I was to carry a snubnose today, I would load it with wadcutters.
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August 11, 2026, 06:46 PM
71 TRUCKAgain thank you everyone for all the information.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State
NRA Life Member August 11, 2026, 07:06 PM
71 TRUCKquote:
Originally posted by Airborne 82.:
Step one go to a gun range that you can try a 38 with a 2in barrel like a Smith J frame. Then try a K frame 3-4in barrel. I shoot a K model 10 4in with plus p and it can still be a hand full after 25 pluss rounds and if you don't practice at least that much every 2 weeks (minimum) well enough said. I think both sizes will serve you well if you put in the time down range. You are way over thinking the fire deal. I would find another place to park.
Airborne 82nd.
Fort Bragg NC
Thank you for the information.
Several years ago I worked for a friend who owned a gun store/range. One of the advantages was being able to practice whenever I wanted before the store opened. My wife and I are also members of an outdoor club. It has been a little while since we were there maybe it's time to start going back regularly.
My wife and I also shot IDPA every month for many years. Every so often I would shoot my GP100 for fun.
For years we also shot ICORE so we got a lot of revolver practice.
Our match director always had at least on BUG stage per match, those were fun.
As far as over thinking the fire deal, as a past active Firefighter/fire service instructor, I always try to mitigate hazards as much as possible. As far as keeping a un loaded revolver in a lock box in the car then using a speed loader to load when leaving, this accomplishes my goal, finding a different place to park does not.
Again thank you for the information.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State
NRA Life Member August 12, 2026, 05:30 AM
SIGfourmeYou mentioned speedloader--there is a new option out there for reloading a revolver.
Zeta makes a several different polymer reloaders for a revolver.
A traditional 5 shot octagonal "speed loader", a strip, an offset strip and a 3/2 offset strip.
https://zetasix.com/August 12, 2026, 02:50 PM
71 TRUCKquote:
Originally posted by SIGfourme:
You mentioned speedloader--there is a new option out there for reloading a revolver.
Zeta makes a several different polymer reloaders for a revolver.
A traditional 5 shot octagonal "speed loader", a strip, an offset strip and a 3/2 offset strip.
https://zetasix.com/
Thanks for the info.
Years ago when I worked at my friends gun store I ordered speed strips foe a customer. This is first I have ever seen 5 shot octagonal speed strip and looks interesting. It is somethin I may have to try.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State
NRA Life Member August 14, 2026, 01:32 PM
davemerceras earlier mentioned, the 135 gr +p gold dot. I have used in my snub nose revolvers, both S&W and Ruger. Recoil is a bit stout but not that bad for a few cylinders worth. It can be hard to find. It seems to run a lot cheaper per round if you can find in 50 round rather than 20 round boxes. It is specifically designed for short barrels, eg 2" or 3". It does come with good recommendations of people who have studied shootings and guns and loads used.
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