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March 15, 2021, 04:14 PM
usncorpsman
Don’t be this fool.
Just saw this on my local news here in Jacksonville. He is f.... ed.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-m...n-conversion-devices
March 15, 2021, 04:31 PM
RogueJSK
Yep. Apparently he thought he was being sneaky by advertising them as "pen holders" and "bottle openers".

They're direct copies of the old Lightning Link.
March 15, 2021, 05:13 PM
trapper189
Reading the article, he sold a piece of metal with an outline etched on the surface. An ATF agent bought the piece of metal, cut it up along the outline, and put the reuslt in an AR-15. Seems clear to me that the ATF agent created the part and converted the rifle.
March 15, 2021, 06:05 PM
usncorpsman
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
Reading the article, he sold a piece of metal with an outline etched on the surface. An ATF agent bought the piece of metal, cut it up along the outline, and put the reuslt in an AR-15. Seems clear to me that the ATF agent created the part and converted the rifle.


We could take that stance all day. The agent will not be charged for doing his or her job. All a lawyer has to do is prove intent. Why would you make this item if not to use it for exactly what the agent did. He may have had the best of intentions, but a terrible item to use for your business Big Grin
March 15, 2021, 06:52 PM
LS1 GTO
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
Reading the article, he sold a piece of metal with an outline etched on the surface. An ATF agent bought the piece of metal, cut it up along the outline, and put the reuslt in an AR-15. Seems clear to me that the ATF agent created the part and converted the rifle.


This is my thought too. As I recall, you and/or I can go online and find the drawings for the auto sears, do the transfer onto metal and poof, have what he was selling.

With that caveat though, I also found just having the parts in your possession can result in felony charges.









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March 15, 2021, 07:00 PM
Voshterkoff
So he sold flat sheet of metal with an etching? I wonder if he wouldn’t have gotten in trouble if it was in crayon instead.
March 15, 2021, 08:11 PM
nhracecraft
Sooo, we're talking 80% Auto Sears...More or Less? Or are we talking Machine Gun 'Art' here?


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March 15, 2021, 08:59 PM
LS1 GTO
quote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
Sooo, we're talking 80% Auto Sears...More or Less? Or are we talking Machine Gun 'Art' here?


No. We're talking about 20% sears. Wink









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July 19, 2021, 05:12 PM
rsbolo
He's going to be seared all right.


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July 23, 2021, 07:45 AM
Gibb
quote:
This case is also part of Project Guardian, the Department of Justice’s signature initiative to reduce gun violence and enforce federal firearms laws. Initiated by the Attorney General in the fall of 2019, Project Guardian draws upon the Department’s past successful programs to reduce gun violence and enhances coordination of federal, state, local, and tribal authorities in investigating and prosecuting gun crimes. For more information on Project Guardian visit www.justice.gov/projectguardian.


About time! I was getting really sick from all of these home-converted machineguns being used in crime on the daily! Roll Eyes




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